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| Quote: Tricky Dicky "We are putting the wiganner aspect in at every level of the club.
Owner is a wiganer, the coach will be a wiganer and players will be mainly through the ranks. There will be no shortage of passion.'"
That's true, but I would sacrifice passion in the head-coach role for NRL expertise.
If Shaun Wane gets the job, I'll give him my full support, as I'm sure all Wigan fans will - I'm pretty sure he'll be regarded the same way Greg was, at least initially - but if it doesn't work out it's going to be yet more criticism for all concerned, because the argument will be that we should have gone for the possibly more expensive option of a highly qualified Aussie.
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| Quote: Cruncher "That's true, but I would sacrifice passion in the head-coach role for NRL expertise.
If Shaun Wane gets the job, I'll give him my full support, as I'm sure all Wigan fans will - I'm pretty sure he'll be regarded the same way Greg was, at least initially - but if it doesn't work out it's going to be yet more criticism for all concerned, because the argument will be that we should have gone for the possibly more expensive option of a highly qualified Aussie.'"
And if say we get McGuire in and he fails what will we say then?
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| Quote: Catalancs "And if say we get McGuire in and he fails what will we say then?'"
Well at least they won't be able to say it's because we went for a cheap option.
I'm talking about the way these things are perceived, and I'm just as guilty of that as everyone else.
I like Shaun Wane and will give him the thumbs-up if he comes, but I find it difficult to see how appointing him (from the Wigan junior ranks) would be as much of a 'cert' as appointing the guy who's been second-in-command of the Storm and has every qualification in the NRL book.
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| Quote: Cruncher "Well at least they won't be able to say it's because we went for a cheap option.
I'm talking about the way these things are perceived, and I'm just as guilty of that as everyone else.
I like Shaun Wane and will give him the thumbs-up if he comes, but I find it difficult to see how appointing him (from the Wigan junior ranks) would be as much of a 'cert' as appointing the guy who's been second-in-command of the Storm and has every qualification in the NRL book.'"
Except coaching an NRL side.
Maybe I'm in a minority, but I'd rather have a club that lives within its means than goes to the wall chasing success (that sounds familiar ).
I'm willing to trust in Ian Lenaghan as I am not privy to the exact details regarding the search for a new coach and don't need to be.
As I posted a few weeks ago, I've been told by two very reliable sources that we wanted McGuire but visa and RFL coaching clearance may prove/have proved a problem.
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| I said to my dad last night that if Wane is to be offered the job the nagging doubt will always be at the back of everyones minds that it's been done because he's the cheap option but i believe this time Lenagan could well have stumbled accross the correct decision.
He's a young up and coming coach that knows the club inside out and will back the youngsters to preform in the first team.
I'll be happy if he is appointed.
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| If Wane takes charge I anticipate a rip n' tear flying start to the new season. Not the usual lethargic half a.rsed approach that effectively rules out all chances of a top 4 finish before the half way point of the season . We'll come flying out the blocks ala Mike Gregory. Might be what's needed. We've seen some of the biggest names in the coaching world fall on their swords at Wigan. Give it a no-nonsense Wiganer and see what he can shake up.
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| Quote: Jimmy Birts Lives On "If Wane takes charge I anticipate a rip n' tear flying start to the new season. Not the usual lethargic half a.rsed approach that effectively rules out all chances of a top 4 finish before the half way point of the season . We'll come flying out the blocks ala Mike Gregory. Might be what's needed. We've seen some of the biggest names in the coaching world fall on their swords at Wigan. Give it a no-nonsense Wiganer and see what he can shake up.'"
Give him a sh*thouse prop who'll rattle a few cages and lead from the front and he'll get us going no problems imo.
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| Quote: Catalancs "Except coaching an NRL side.'"
He coaches it when the head coach is on rep duty. Wane has coached Wigan when?
Quote: Catalancs "Maybe I'm in a minority, but I'd rather have a club that lives within its means than goes to the wall chasing success (that sounds familiar
This has got to be the most negative and pointless argument against employing a top class coach yet. What do you mean "lives within its means"? How much do you think a top class coaches salary is and why on earth should Wigan with with the crowds we get be unable to afford it?
Like most others on this board I like what Wane has done with the junior players but we need a top class coach not one appointed because we can't find one or he is cheap.
Nobby getting boot and Wane being appointed half way through this season as caretaker would have been ideal. We could have seen how he went and then if he went well at least the appointment would have been based on seeing how he did handle a SL side. Had it not worked out then as caretaker he could have reverted to his old role as we went for a different man. Now instead of that it is a complete gamble to appoint an untried coach. This is a direct consequence of letting the coaching issue drag on as it has.
Wane may well do as others suggest and emulate Mike Greg but most new coaches have an effect just after they join. Jimmy Lowes did at Wire for about four of five games. The passion and Mike Greg style attitude can only take a side so far and we saw in the cup semi final what happens when a technically naive coach comes up against one with a brain. I don't want to see Wane exposed like that.
Of course he may be a revelation but I don't think we should be voicing approval of his appointment because the club can then live within its means.
Dave
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| Quote: DaveO "He coaches it when the head coach is on rep duty. Wane has coached Wigan when?'"
I never mentioned Wane.
McGuire coaches when Belamy is away on SoO duty? SoO is midweek so Bellamy is back for the weekend NRL game.
Quote: DaveO "This has got to be the most negative and pointless argument against employing a top class coach yet.'"
So why bother responding to it?
Quote: DaveO "What do you mean "lives within its means"? How much do you think a top class coaches salary is and why on earth should Wigan with with the crowds we get be unable to afford it?.'"
I don't want us to have money problems that could lead to financial problems and I'm not just talking about a coach. Short memories.
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| Quote: Catalancs "I never mentioned Wane.
McGuire coaches when Belamy is away on SoO duty? SoO is midweek so Bellamy is back for the weekend NRL game.
So why bother responding to it?
I don't want us to have money problems that could lead to financial problems and I'm not just talking about a coach. Short memories.'"
I don't expect Nobby to be working for minimum wage. Other clubs seem to be able to tempt Aussie coaches with no problem - are we supposed to assume that Hudds, HKR etc pay their coaches better than we seem prepared or able to?
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| Quote: Catalancs "I don't want us to have money problems that could lead to financial problems and I'm not just talking about a coach. Short memories.'"
Given the salary cap for players, if our coaching set-up is going to send us into financial meltdown, we may as well pack it all in now.
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| Quote: Catalancs "I never mentioned Wane.
McGuire coaches when Belamy is away on SoO duty? SoO is midweek so Bellamy is back for the weekend NRL game.'"
You contrasted the experience of McQuire to Wane when Cruncher mentioned Wane's lack of experience.
Quote: Catalancs "So why bother responding to it?'"
This is a message board.
Quote: Catalancs "I don't want us to have money problems that could lead to financial problems and I'm not just talking about a coach. Short memories.'"
And as I said previously, how much do you think a head coaches wage is and why do you think this would be a problem for Wigan? Do you think Nobby is on a pittance?
Sorry you don't like it being pointed out the club getting into financial difficulty by appointing a top coach is nonsense, but it is.
Dave
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| Quote: Catalancs "Except coaching an NRL side.
Maybe I'm in a minority, but I'd rather have a club that lives within its means than goes to the wall chasing success (that sounds familiar
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