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| Quote ="MadDogg"I have a suspicion they'll go after Tony Smith if Woolf leaves.'"
What makes you say that?
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Quote ="MadDogg"I have a suspicion they'll go after Tony Smith if Woolf leaves.'"
What makes you say that?'"
Not heard anything but wonder if there's more to Smith's decision to leave Hull KR - seems strange if he hasn't got a job lined up. He's got a good record, won the major trophies and likely wouldn't go to the NRL if he did well as he's been here a while. Agree that Watson would be a good shout but suspect he will stick with it at Hudds.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Not heard anything but wonder if there's more to Smith's decision to leave Hull KR - seems strange if he hasn't got a job lined up. He's got a good record, won the major trophies and likely wouldn't go to the NRL if he did well as he's been here a while. Agree that Watson would be a good shout but suspect he will stick with it at Hudds.'"
Possibly, but it would seem like another step backwards for them. Woolf (no matter what the fans say) ain't Holbrook. Watson could be tho, especially with his age and knowledge of the league.
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| I wonder what the score was when the votes were handed in. I imagine that the experts could only see a Huddersfield win and were going with that narrative.
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| Watched the match back last night and when McQueen scored his try there was a blatant obstruction on Bibby just like the one Singleton was penalised for.
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| Quote ="jaws1"Watched the match back last night and when McQueen scored his try there was a blatant obstruction on Bibby just like the one Singleton was penalised for.'"
Wasn't the same
Without getting all technical Singletons deffo was an obstruction (Irrespective of the swan dive from the defender) - Mcqueen's wasn't - The dummy runner ran through the line on an inside shoulder and Bibby chose to take the runner - Right decision on both
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Wasn't the same
Without getting all technical Singletons deffo was an obstruction (Irrespective of the swan dive from the defender) - Mcqueen's wasn't - The dummy runner ran through the line on an inside shoulder and Bibby chose to take the runner - Right decision on both'"
Correct Bibby initiated contact, right call.
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| Everyone saying that the ref bottled it by not sin binning players should look back at previous Challenge Cup Finals. I can't rememeber a single player being sin binned for at least the last 10 years., Looks like a directive to referee's to me.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Wasn't the same
Without getting all technical Singletons deffo was an obstruction (Irrespective of the swan dive from the defender) - Mcqueen's wasn't - The dummy runner ran through the line on an inside shoulder and Bibby chose to take the runner - Right decision on both'"
I know what you're saying Jukesy and not disagreeing exactly but the Singleton one was a little more than a swan dive to be fair. He literally jumps to impact with Singleton before he ever gets to the swan dive. He could have easily avoided the collision in which case Singleton would have gone through the line and that would have been no penalty, a fact Jiffy picks up in commentary.
Penalty because of the contact but the contact was initiated by the Huddersfield player so a highly 'milked' one at the very least
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Penalty because of the contact but the contact was initiated by the Huddersfield player so a highly 'milked' one at the very least'"
A big issue with the current interpretations of the obstruction rule for me.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"A big issue with the current interpretations of the obstruction rule for me.'"
Definitely. Shouldn't be a penalty in my opinion as it's borderline cheating and we have enough of that creeping into the game.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Definitely. Shouldn't be a penalty in my opinion as it's borderline cheating and we have enough of that creeping into the game.'"
I've not watched the game back, but you regularly see defenders just throw their arms in the air or take a dive rather than even attempt to defend the play and it's, as you say, becoming like borderline cheating.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I've not watched the game back, but you regularly see defenders just throw their arms in the air or take a dive rather than even attempt to defend the play and it's, as you say, becoming like borderline cheating.'"
It's deffo a penalty
Singleton makes no attempt to go on the inside shoulder of the defender, and the defender (Levi) is no more than a yard away from the defender outside him when contacts made so there's no gap before the Contact.
Penalty all day
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"I know what you're saying Jukesy and not disagreeing exactly but the Singleton one was a little more than a swan dive to be fair. He literally jumps to impact with Singleton before he ever gets to the swan dive. He could have easily avoided the collision in which case Singleton would have gone through the line and that would have been no penalty, a fact Jiffy picks up in commentary.
Penalty because of the contact but the contact was initiated by the Huddersfield player so a highly 'milked' one at the very least'"
We'll have to agree to disagree
When Singleton goes through he makes no attempt to get inside of Levi (And there is a big gap on Levi's inside to Chris Hill).
Levi could hardly go any further to his right as he was already only a yard away from his outside defender (He has to hold is defensive line until Singleton isn't an option).
It's Singleton's responsibility to avoid that contact, Levi doesn't go out of his way to take Singleton or choose to take him.
You say "He literally jumps to impact with Singleton before he ever gets to the swan dive He could have easily avoided the collision in which case Singleton would have gone through the line and that would have been no penalty, a fact Jiffy picks up in commentary" - But he couldn't avoid the contact as he has to Skip to the right as the play unfolds to pick up the next runner. Singleton's responsibility there once he isn't an option is to get on the inside of Levi and not Hinder his attempt to get across. Singleton is on Levi's outside shoulder and blocks him
Comparisons to the Bibby one are way off
Whoever the Dummy runner is for Hudds comes on the inside of Bibby and Bibby rather than skip on (Which he could have he chose to as there was no one physically there to stop him) decides to initiate contact with the Hudds player on Bibby's inside shoulder.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"We'll have to agree to disagree
When Singleton goes through he makes no attempt to get inside of Levi (And there is a big gap on Levi's inside to Chris Hill).
Levi could hardly go any further to his right as he was already only a yard away from his outside defender (He has to hold is defensive line until Singleton isn't an option).
It's Singleton's responsibility to avoid that contact, Levi doesn't go out of his way to take Singleton or choose to take him.
You say "He literally jumps to impact with Singleton before he ever gets to the swan dive He could have easily avoided the collision in which case Singleton would have gone through the line and that would have been no penalty, a fact Jiffy picks up in commentary" - But he couldn't avoid the contact as he has to Skip to the right as the play unfolds to pick up the next runner. Singleton's responsibility there once he isn't an option is to get on the inside of Levi and not Hinder his attempt to get across. Singleton is on Levi's outside shoulder and blocks him
Comparisons to the Bibby one are way off
Whoever the Dummy runner is for Hudds comes on the inside of Bibby and Bibby rather than skip on (Which he could have he chose to as there was no one physically there to stop him) decides to initiate contact with the Hudds player on Bibby's inside shoulder.'"
Never disputed the Bibby one. We'll have to (partly) agree to disagree on the other. It's definitely a penalty as I said in the post but it was about as milked as it gets.
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