Which are biased to say the least.

In my humble opinion Wigan are better than Saints because they have the only trophy in the cupboard that was contested so far this season and had to beat Saints (second best) on the way,would like to point out the likes of Walmsley/Makinson/Percival were on show that day.

now if you win the Hubcap you will be the most consistant team (that is the next trophy on offer )

I'd still say saints have the edge as much as it pains me. We have definitely closed the gap but would still say where not quite there yet as the best side in the league

That's crazy logic. It's like saying Latics were a better side than City as they beat them in the FA cup final.

Beer goggles

If I was forced to say it I would agree only because they have won more games ,but as I would like to point out they did bottle the only game that meant anything and it was against us.
We will see how it pans out.

Were Latics second in the table and a better points difference,We are still in with a shout at the League if we manage that are we not the better team or if we win the GF is it then we become the better team.

When do we become the better team as we have already won 1 cup so far.

History tells us that we are a better team. The only way to judge it is trophy wins and we are miles ahead.

That is my argument,we have won the only trophy on offer so far.

So by that same logic Everton are a better team than City as they have won more trophies in their history?

What about Villa. They’ve won more European Cups than City too. Are they a better team now?

Wigan are the most successful Club in history way better than St Helens.

However it can only be this season we can talk about and you lot are top of the league (not the hubcap holders yet) so you havnt won anything yet but we have got the only trophy to be won.

Last year you was the best team as you had won the GF but this season so far you have won- nothing,ziltch,zero etc etc.

Which doesnt mean either side are better, Saints are better full strength (see Good Friday when we couldnt get out of our own half after 20 mins) but does that mean we can't beat them in a big game or grand final - absolutely not .

I am cringing reading some of these posts. Cant wait for schools to go back so Jason can go back

Fair post. The very chance that we could beat you in the big dance has fans like myself optimistic and excited about the end of the year. A far cry from last year under Lam. What’s more is the fact that saints have had Dodd injured all year, they were looking pretty unbeatable and were playing scintillating stuff when he was fit.

I wouldn’t rule out Leeds or Salford upsetting either of our teams in a one off game also FWIW.

So do I. Again, your point is?