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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "To be fair mate I only really read that one post and it was as if he was saying only Wigan were allowed to selectively select periods in history to celebrate. I have no interest in the petty arguments and name calling that many seem to have descended too. I just think our recent success should not be ignored as we still have the vast majority of players who we know can win things, so as of now we should not be written off. However, yes I think it's very clear to see you were the best team last season and as of now are favorites and rightly so. But it's a long season and a lot can change. I just hope all fans realise we are all here to enjoy the sport and discuss matters in a contructive way, not to eneter slanging matches over frankly stupid topics.'"



Fully agree. I think Leeds have done extremely well in recent years - considering their barren years from the 70's - 90's.

Wigan are definitely going in the right direction (to achieve further success), the fact that our U20's are beating Barrow away 32-6 at the moment is testament to that.

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Quote: wigan_knight "cheating c""t

10 weeks out was not long enough'"


I do hope I'm never sat near you at a game.

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ryan hall injured today . leeds having injury crisis before season kicks off .

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Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "I do hope I'm never sat near you at a game.'"


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Quote: wigan_knight "

Sorry pal, care to elaborate? wishing serious injury to professional RL players would be seen as sick on any other Board.

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Quote: LEEDSLEADS. "Sorry pal, care to elaborate? wishing serious injury to professional RL players would be seen as sick on any other Board.'"


No sympathy for cheats sorry..he made his bed when all over Carmont

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Quote: wigan_knight "

He's gonna beat you up bad, cos he's dead hard.. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Ziggy Stardust "He's gonna beat you up bad, cos he's dead hard..

i was thinking he might not resist me and ask for my phone number icon_eek.gif

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Quote: cadoo "So Gary Hetherington never interlinks his criticisms with a club or coach directly, but it would take a fool to not see who his fatuous comments are aimed at. It would be inane of Hetherington to come out completely and name X club and Y club. It would make him look (more) foolish and motivate other clubs, whilst also giving the impression he has a certain amount of trepidation towards how his team will fare in this upcoming season. However, please don't be naive about who he is commenting about. He doesn't need to name clubs/coaches. We all realise who is talking about. As the journalist rightly points out in the articlehttps://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12387_6186138,00.htmlrl Comments that came after his side had won in the challenge cup against us.
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So you are saying that Wigan do use such negative tactics which is and has been complained about by numerous RL personalities (Only one of which is GH) and was been the catalyst for the introduction of another referee (which is a fairly huge change in the officiating of the game, as big as any in my lifetime) in Australia to rescue the spectacle.
Quote: cadoo "His argument that these supposed 'negative tactics' ruin the game and have a greater focus on 'defensive' tactics are dumbfounded IMO. From watching Wigan last season I have witnessed more attacking flair, dexterity, greater skill levels and overall entertainment in that one season alone than I have seen over the last decade. We had players who topped all the try scoring, points charts, scored over 900 points collectively and amassed every single honour in Super League as a team and as a club. We're the best supported team in the league, which suggests that we play an exciting brand of rugby. We've also smashed viewing figures whenever we played last season too. All this evidence completely contradicts Hetherington's hypothesis that "they do nothing for the spectacle". '"
I certainly cant agree that the flair, dexterity or skill levels of SL now, and in immediately preceeding years is as high as it was 5-10 years ago. I certainly dont think that the 2009 Leeds side which won the LLS and GF was better than the Leeds team in 2005 which lost the GF and CC final, I certainly dont think it is the quality of the 2004 side.

But i think you clarify here your argument isnt that Wigan dont play that type of rugby, dont have a reliance on defence and wrestling techniques, but simply that those techniques dont matter. Which would make your defensive tone seem even stranger

Quote: cadoo "For sure, Wigan have a definite emphasis on defence. We do wrestle in the tackle and do (seem to, after all I'm not the coach) place an importance around the ruck. But tell me which teams in Super League don't? Is it not possible to do both AND show flair in attack in the same time? '"
All clubs do nobody has said any different.

Quote: cadoo "Could you elaborate on the free flowing stars "you pretend they are" comment? The statistics, achievements, accolades and cold hard facts all suggest otherwise to what you've suggested. I don't support Hetherington's claims not because my team don't play expansive, fast-flowing, entertaining brand of rugby, but precisely because they do and so any vacuous criticisms of the 'brand of rugby' we play is ludicrous as his comments suggests.'"
Which makes your position simply ridiculous and contradictory. If Wigan do play an expansive and fast-flowing, entertaining brand of rugby (and in the interests of full disclosure i dont believe they do. I dont believe many teams do at the moment, including Leeds) then why take offence at something which you dont believe applies to Wigan, and bar the speculation of a journalist, doesnt mention Wigan. If you do believe that Wigan play an exciting brand of Rugby then you would surely support GH's comments rather than criticise him for making them.

And do you mean cold hard facts like Wigan committed more technical offences than any other team in SL last year?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "So you are saying that Wigan do use such negative tactics which is and has been complained about by numerous RL personalities (Only one of which is GH) and was been the catalyst for the introduction of another referee (which is a fairly huge change in the officiating of the game, as big as any in my lifetime) in Australia to rescue the spectacle.
I certainly cant agree that the flair, dexterity or skill levels of SL now, and in immediately preceeding years is as high as it was 5-10 years ago. I certainly dont think that the 2009 Leeds side which won the LLS and GF was better than the Leeds team in 2005 which lost the GF and CC final, I certainly dont think it is the quality of the 2004 side.

But i think you clarify here your argument isnt that Wigan dont play that type of rugby, dont have a reliance on defence and wrestling techniques, but simply that those techniques dont matter. Which would make your defensive tone seem even stranger

All clubs do nobody has said any different.

Which makes your position simply ridiculous and contradictory. If Wigan do play an expansive and fast-flowing, entertaining brand of rugby (and in the interests of full disclosure i dont believe they do. I dont believe many teams do at the moment, including Leeds) then why take offence at something which you dont believe applies to Wigan, and bar the speculation of a journalist, doesnt mention Wigan. If you do believe that Wigan play an exciting brand of Rugby then you would surely support GH's comments rather than criticise him for making them.

And do you mean cold hard facts like Wigan committed more technical offences than any other team in SL last year?'"


Haaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Smokey returns after a three month disappearing act..Do one muppet.... icon_biggrin.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Ziggy Stardust "Haaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Smokey returns after a three month disappearing act..Do one muppet.... Wouldnt want to send this board into a collective apoplexy of hypocrisy again.

Nice to see the class shown by some Wigan fans regarding Danny Mags hasnt improved though.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Wouldnt want to send this board into a collective apoplexy of hypocrisy again.

Nice to see the class shown by some Wigan fans regarding Danny Mags hasnt improved though.'"


Nobody cares about you anymore..your history. We are the Champs so get over it gimpo.

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Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "To be fair mate I only really read that one post and it was as if he was saying only Wigan were allowed to selectively select periods in history to celebrate. I have no interest in the petty arguments and name calling that many seem to have descended too. I just think our recent success should not be ignored as we still have the vast majority of players who we know can win things, so as of now we should not be written off. However, yes I think it's very clear to see you were the best team last season and as of now are favorites and rightly so. But it's a long season and a lot can change. I just hope all fans realise we are all here to enjoy the sport and discuss matters in a contructive way, not to eneter slanging matches over frankly stupid topics.'"


Couldn't agree more, But I think it's some of the Leeds fans who are trying to start that Slanging match you should be trying to pick up on, not the Wigan fans who are plainly pointing out the Hypocricy of their posts?

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Quote: Ziggy Stardust "Nobody cares about you anymore..your history. We are the Champs so get over it gimpo.'"
Classy.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Classy.'"

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