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| Quote LovesToSpooge="LovesToSpooge"I don't know whether Shaun would be prepared to wait this long, but if it were my choice on what to do, my plan would be to loan Ainscough out for the next two years similar to what Saints have done with Moore, so that he can then come into the team in two years time in place of a retiring Amos. That would be my way of dealing with the situation, however it all depend on whether Ainscough is willing to wait that long.
I'm sure with some reassurances by the club and a longterm contract in place he'd wait, especially if he was rejoining a successful Wigan side.'"
I must admit I thought the same last night!!
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| Quote loobyfromorrell="loobyfromorrell"Rumours coming out of oz that Riddell wants to go back next year'"
One of the quota list then, wouldn't be too bothered TBH. Half decent player with a decent rep but not done much in my eyes, no better than say Ben Fisher.
Cameron Smith perhaps?
IMO - if Deacon retires at the end of the season we bring in Danny Brough,
- if Riddell goes back to Aus the hooking duties shared between TL and MM
- if Riddell stays MM gets a 2 year deal but goes out on loan untill Riddell goes, in fact I would loan him to Wakey now once he gets back from injury as they could prob do with him and he could do with the game time playing superleague.
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| Quote post="post"One of the quota list then, wouldn't be too bothered TBH. Half decent player with a decent rep but not done much in my eyes, no better than say Ben Fisher.
Cameron Smith perhaps?
IMO - if Deacon retires at the end of the season we bring in Danny Brough,
- if Riddell goes back to Aus the hooking duties shared between TL and MM
- if Riddell stays MM gets a 2 year deal but goes out on loan untill Riddell goes, in fact I would loan him to Wakey now once he gets back from injury as they could prob do with him and he could do with the game time playing superleague.'"
He isent good enough for Wakefield.
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| Quote Panda Antics="Panda Antics"Alot won't like this, but for the time being, I'm a lot happier with Ainscough playing away from Wigan than at Wigan, and until he sorts his defense out my opinion won't change.
That isn't to say I don't appreciate all the hard work he does in attack, and I'd love him to sort out the defensive aspect of his game because he will score tries, and he's clearly passionate about playing for Wigan, but for every couple of tries he gets, he costs the team one.
I'm in two minds about whether I even want him out on loan. He's clearly a try scorer, and doesn't lack confidence in attack, so it may be better to have him here, under the guidance of our coaches, who are clearly achieving wonders with the rest of the squad. That way, we can focus almost solely on his defensive game i.e. ability and confidence under the high ball, positioning and judgment of situations.
I know he needs game time, but if he continues to make the same mistakes, is it really beneficial him being away from our coaching staff?
I know this post is very harsh on him, and he did perform very well tonight, but a brilliant performance with ball in hand is too often let down by a howler in defense, normally costing the team a try.'"
If all his team mates did that every game that team would never ever lose a game.
It's a [size=200team[/size game for God's sake.
Just get off his back.
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| Funny isn't it - Ainscough scores a hat-trick and all some people want to do is overly focus on his defensive mistake.
Some of those people would be shouting for a first team start for Pryce had he had the same game.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Funny isn't it - Ainscough scores a hat-trick and all some people want to do is overly focus on his defensive mistake.
Some of those people would be shouting for a first team start for Pryce had he had the same game.'"
You are completely missing the point.
It's the same type of mistake he has been making for almost five years. I'm quite happy to let the coach decide who plays and who goes out on loan.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"You are completely missing the point.
It's the same type of mistake he has been making for almost five years. I'm quite happy to let the coach decide who plays and who goes out on loan.'"
I'm not missing the point at all - I'm just pointing out the double standards some people have when discussing players.
Has anyone said they aren't happy for the coach to decide who goes where?
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"I'm not missing the point at all - I'm just pointing out the double standards some people have when discussing players.
Has anyone said they aren't happy for the coach to decide who goes where?'"
It's hardly double standards is it? Massive massive praise - he praises and posts some balance, Massive massive criticism - he posts some positives and acknowledges some limitations to. I'd call it trying to present a rounded opinion, about the only player i've ever seen Rogues post a non balanced opinion over is Rhys Evans
Ainscough is a fantastic talent, and long may he be a Wigan player - he has a few small issues in his game that need work (so does every single player including the experienced pros), but he's a cracking talent. I just hope he doesn't have his head turned by the small few who hail him as the messiah and demand he's in the team now - personally I don't think he will, I think he's level headed enough, and the current regime will look after him.
Currently him playing at Cas, in my opinion is the best for both parties.
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"It's hardly double standards is it? Massive massive praise - he praises and posts some balance, Massive massive criticism - he posts some positives and acknowledges some limitations to. I'd call it trying to present a rounded opinion, about the only player i've ever seen Rogues post a non balanced opinion over is Rhys Evans

Ainscough is a fantastic talent, and long may he be a Wigan player - he has a few small issues in his game that need work (so does every single player including the experienced pros), but he's a cracking talent. I just hope he doesn't have his head turned by the small few who hail him as the messiah and demand he's in the team now - personally I don't think he will, I think he's level headed enough, and the current regime will look after him.
Currently him playing at Cas, in my opinion is the best for both parties.'"
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy! (he let a try in). [size=50even though he scored three.[/size
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Ainscough is a fantastic talent, and long may he be a Wigan player - he has a few small issues in his game that need work (so does every single player including the experienced pros), but he's a cracking talent. I just hope he doesn't have his head turned by the small few who hail him as the messiah and demand he's in the team now - personally I don't think he will, I think he's level headed enough, and the current regime will look after him.
Currently him playing at Cas, in my opinion is the best for both parties.'"
Who said I was talking about Rouges? Unless he was outing himself - are you doing the same?
Mentioning Pryce seems to have touched a nerve with some.
In terms of Ainscough, I wouldn't have him in the team until he sorts out the brain farts in defence especially with the wingers we currently have ahead of him. However, no matter what he does (like scoring a hat-trick) there are some that are only too ready to focus on his known issues when they are all too ready to criticise people who do the same with other players.
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"This is the exact same type of post that keeps popping up regards Ainscough.
The kid has just scored 3 very good tries against a very good team. Not only that but he’s had another disallowed and was by far the most dangerous winger/back on the pitch making excellent yards on most of his kick returns but yet there are sly digs going in against him?
I actually think his kick on the last play was the right option as well and if he’d gone for the corner I’m sure there would also be other out there calling him greedy.
Again his attack far out ways his occasional flaw in defence which some on here go way OTT about.
Show me another 20 year old winger who can do what he can'"
Totally agree.
I don't get this talk about him not being good enough in defence and for every 2 or 3 trys he scores he'll let one in..............so what! He's young and inexperienced and will improve with gametime in the first team(wheather it be at Wigan or Cas). If somebody said to me 'he's going to score 3 trys a game but be at fault for one at the other end' would you take it? I'd bite their hand off especially when you consider he can iron out these flaws in time.
Whats his superleague first team record now? Something along the lines of 22 trys and 14 games(in all comps)?
I'm in total agreement with the people that say at the minute there isn't a way into our side when everybody is fit but what a player to have waiting in the wings! I just wish all our fans would back him instead on constantly picking out flaws.
I just hope we can keep him happy with these loan spells in a similar way to how Saints have with Scott Moore. It may be a few months or it may be a couple of years before this lad can find a spot in the team at Wigan but to lose him would be an awful blow.
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