To be honest i was just a little cheesed off with him as from a disciplinary perspective he only commented on the Wigan indiscretions. If he was more balanced i probably wouldnt have bothered as some of the other points he made were interesting coming from an ex player i.e. the extra efforts that win you games, as we sometimes may not see at the game

re the comment from Clarke i agree, and think sky have taken action by the looks of it, not sure if he is suspended pending disciplinary investigation, but he's not been on sky for the last couple of weeks. Wilkins probably wasnt as direct, but was around the same subject. The issue is that all clubs do it / try to do it. Every club is looking at ways of winning, whether that be a new attacking play or defensive pattern, slowing the play of the ball down etc etc. If giving a penalty / set restart away stops team x from scoring, how many players would do it, probably most in the league. On Friday he commented that Wigan werent letting Saints play by slowing the POB down, and as i put above what are we supposed to do, just jump off your players to let you play how you want . The only time you got a good fast play of the ball in the 1st half led to the Makinson attempt in the corner

onto the disciplinary, and i dont think anything i saw in the game on Friday warranted a ban. I think the ref got the calls right i.e. Singleton hitting Hurrell (word on pitch), Sironen tipping Smithies (word on pitch), Matautia (late hit - penalty and swinging arm on floor - penalty), Powell high tackle - penalty. I have watched the game back twice over the last 2 days, and other than knowing exactly when Smithies and Knowles made their respective tackles, and then watching them back, didnt see anything in either of them. However, it appears that this type of tackle is the new cannonball / crusher in a sense that they are looking to clamp down on them if they see them in a game, and we are likely to see bans if a player is leaving the ground in the process of tackling

He was literally on on Friday

I can’t speyk.

I still find it bewildering that Clarke's comments about Shaun Wane weren't challenged by any of the other commentators.

To refresh minds, he doubted that Wane was the man for the England job. No argument with him there. I personally rate Shaun Wane's coaching skills, but everyone can make their own mind up whether he's international standard or not. It was what followed that was outrageous. Carney contended that Wane had won several trophies while coaching Wigan, to which Clarke responded with the blatant lie that this was because Wigan had spent more money than anyone else.

I don't know whether they were all too gobsmacked to respond, but I literally remember no one tackling him for that. Remember, this was in the near-enough here and now, deep in the era of the Salary Cap.

How he could criticise one of the British game's most respected professionals, and then offer THAT as an explanation still beggars belief.

I was watching Bradford v Halifax last night on Viacom, and although I wouldn't say the commentary is brilliant (Leon Pryce and co), it's still streets ahead of Sky.

is viacom still a thing?

Wilkin talking s h I t e again

Wells was asking if Warrington could hang on a half time.

He must have taught Jake Connor about how to look at a scoreboard.

Literally could not care any less about anything that comes out of Wilkin's mouth. A car crash pundit.

To be fair I thought the rant about you guys slowing us down and being happy to concede a penalty etc was obviously just a dig at Clarke. He basically copied his rant word for word, without using the word cheating and instead replacing it with "just like any team in super league"

Agree he's largely e though. As is Clarke. Sky is just e all over the show, Pyke is one of the worst I've ever seen

On Pyke I’m staggered that someone who speaks like he has a bag of Werthers Originals in his mouth is allowed to commentate on National TV.

I thought that. He even looks at him as he says it.

Dunno about 'still', it's the renamed Freesports channel.

I don't mind Wilkin on other-than-Saints games. At least you can understand what he's saying.