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While I think that we need a fresh coaching approach (thinking about the massive changes that came about when Madge implemented everything he'd learned not only from NRL, but also NFL and others), I would LOVE to hear the club say that Lam was being replaced by Wane today.

My hope (Note that I say "hope", not "expectation"icon_wink.gif is that he will bring at least SOME new approach(es), based on whatever he may have learned from Rugby Union.

We certainly can't be any worse off under him - Although I am REALLY worried that Matty Peet will just be more of the same as Lammy. Although at least he learnt his trade under SW, not AL.

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Happy for him to to come in a caretaker and if Peet is taking over have him work closely with Waney over the next few game maybe even pre season.

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Quote: MadDogg "He's not been out on the training field though, more planning behind the scenes (unless my info is wrong).'"


He has already approached former Super League coaches about potential backroom positions for next year I know that.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "He has already approached former Super League coaches about potential backroom positions for next year I know that.'"


Wane or Lenagan?

I'd heard Lee Briers name mentioned.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Wane or Lenagan?

I'd heard Lee Briers name mentioned.'"


Wane has. Spoken personally to a coach currently out of work with regards to joining next year. I believe if Leuluai retires then the coaching job goes to Leuluai. If he plays again then the job is going to the chap Wane has in mind.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Wane has. Spoken personally to a coach currently out of work with regards to joining next year. I believe if Leuluai retires then the coaching job goes to Leuluai. If he plays again then the job is going to the chap Wane has in mind.'"


I've heard he's spoken to Duffy and that they gave him a tour of the facilities a few weeks back.

No idea if it's true & it came from a current academy lad, so no reason to doubt it.

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Do people think SW will be head coach or director of rugby ?

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Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "FFS when will this club move on from going back to ex-employees - players or coaches?

New ideas and new personnel are needed right across the club.

I bet ex-girlfriends of Lenegan and Radlinski have to have restraining orders on them as they can't seem to let go of people who've moved on.'"


Whilst he's a former player, is "new ideas" not what Lam was brought over for? He's not played, or been involved with the club for 20 years or so.

People calling for this white knight from the NRL have Madge tinted specs on. For every Madge & Holbrook, there's even more like Lam, Price, Furner etc.

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Wane might be going back to an ex coach but he’d be anything but going backwards IMO. I want a proven winner in charge and he’s just that.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Wane might be going back to an ex coach but he’d be anything but going backwards IMO. I want a proven winner in charge and he’s just that.'"


I'd love to be in that 1st team meeting he takes. icon_evil.gif

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Quote: sergeant pepper "Whilst he's a former player, is "new ideas" not what Lam was brought over for? He's not played, or been involved with the club for 20 years or so.

People calling for this white knight from the NRL have Madge tinted specs on. For every Madge & Holbrook, there's even more like Lam, Price, Furner etc.'"


Lam was brought in to be the stop gap before Edwards for a year. You have to ask why he's still here.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Wane might be going back to an ex coach but he’d be anything but going backwards IMO. I want a proven winner in charge and he’s just that.'"


It's a lazy, comfy, appointment that is why the club has gone backwards at the alarming rate it has over the past few years.

The whole club needs an absolute rocket up its backside starting with Lam and Radlinski going. If Wane replaces Radlinski ok - if Wane is going to be coach in all but name we won't move on as we need to.

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Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "It's a lazy, comfy, appointment that is why the club has gone backwards at the alarming rate it has over the past few years.

The whole club needs an absolute rocket up its backside starting with Lam and Radlinski going. If Wane replaces Radlinski ok - if Wane is going to be coach in all but name we won't move on as we need to.'"


But again he’ll be anything but lazy, the players will be anything but lazy and it won’t be a comfortable environment for anyone. I know that’s not what you’re saying and I agree on some scores that we shouldn’t keep going back to ex players or members of the coaching staff but this isn’t any old player or assistant coach, conditioner etc, this is the man who dealt with the injury crisis that Lam has, dealt with numerous player exits like Lam has had to and blooded loads of kids like Lam has but he won things, plenty of things.

I’m basing me wanting him back on the assumption that any new man would need to work with what he’s given regards coaching staff, back room staff etc. We won’t get that full clean sweep people think we need, a new man wouldn’t be able to lay off every coach and member of the back room staff and bring in their own men, as that is not how Lenagan does things, so if we’re going to keep going down this route of hiring from within and promoting from within, then there is no better man than Wane to oversee that IMO. If somebody said to be it’s a blank canvas and a new man gets an open cheque book to do what he wants with his staff, than great, let’s get in a totally new man but we know they won’t get that.

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Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "It's a lazy, comfy, appointment that is why the club has gone backwards at the alarming rate it has over the past few years.

The whole club needs an absolute rocket up its backside starting with Lam and Radlinski going. If Wane replaces Radlinski ok - if Wane is going to be coach in all but name we won't move on as we need to.'"


From what I’ve heard radders will only be in charge of the marketing and other duties that come with a director (which you can’t really knock him for) Waney will take charge of the buying of players and similar duties. To me with the right coach in place we could be on to a winner. I think Waney knows what he wants in a player and hopefully with input from others could bring the right players in.

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Quote: NickyKiss "But again he’ll be anything but lazy, the players will be anything but lazy and it won’t be a comfortable environment for anyone. I know that’s not what you’re saying and I agree on some scores that we shouldn’t keep going back to ex players or members of the coaching staff but this isn’t any old player or assistant coach, conditioner etc, this is the man who dealt with the injury crisis that Lam has, dealt with numerous player exits like Lam has had to and blooded loads of kids like Lam has but he won things, plenty of things.

I’m basing me wanting him back on the assumption that any new man would need to work with what he’s given regards coaching staff, back room staff etc. We won’t get that full clean sweep people think we need, a new man wouldn’t be able to lay off every coach and member of the back room staff and bring in their own men, as that is not how Lenagan does things, so if we’re going to keep going down this route of hiring from within and promoting from within, then there is no better man than Wane to oversee that IMO. If somebody said to be it’s a blank canvas and a new man gets an open cheque book to do what he wants with his staff, than great, let’s get in a totally new man but we know they won’t get that.'"


I agree we can't get a full clean sweep in one go, but we sure as hell can be ready and planning to get replacements when people's contracts are up. It feels like 2009 again when we need to identify a coach with new ideas and get the club out of the malaise it has got itself into. Our rivals are moving on and trying to get some enthusiasm into their clubs as we start to come out of Covid. If we carry on as we are, people who have got out of the habit of going to games are not going to have good reason to come back.

Like I said if Wane is to replace Radlinski ok, but this incessant looking back at the club is not how you move forward.

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