What game where you watching? No major brawls but numerous coming togethers during the game and one of them coming togethers punches where thrown. I think roughhouse tactics come from when we scored tries dummies where spat out from Wigan and handbags started resulting in Wigan stupidly flying out the line the following defensive set

The main instigator of that and the first one to start throwing punches was Ben Cockayne, no doubt he will be at Red Hall again this week.

Again? I can't remember the last time he was there. To be fair I didn't really see it as I noticed the scuffle too late. Supposedly charnley kicked Campese during the game aswell but didn't see that either. Was a scrappy game could be a couple of players from the match at red hall.

I think both sides were niggling each other. Chris Chester said as much on the radio afterwards. He wanted his players to rush in and pressure the ref. no doubt about it, wigan are in disciplined at the moment and teams are targeting that (correctly) as a weakness. It started in week one with Widnes and Joe Mellor's dying swan act.

The reason you lost was because for once, we gave it 100% for the full 80 mins, in the past we would have given up at 6-20 in the last quarter, but today we got up and in your faces and didn't get phased by your tactics, and it paid off. Campese was class today.

So none of the wigan fans can say fair play to Hull Kingston Rovers for the fightback??? Well done Hull KR? You visited with the mind set of we cant lose, you lost, yet its Wigans fault and not well done Hull KR? Give credit to the team you are playing!

No thats true, it wasn't Hull KR's fault that Wigan failed to control a three score lead and I fully agree with you that it was to KR's credit that they didn't go under at 20-6 after heavy losses (in terms of points conceded) in Rounds 1 & 2.

Well thank you, you Nearly gave credit to Hull KR there, Hull KR's defence is shocking, I hope we get a top 8 place but dont think we will, Its just a breath of fresh air to here we were beaten by the better side on the day, unfortunately its now all about how your team lost and lets find faults with individual players why we lost rather then giving credit to the opposition or the ref was poor, but thanks for the nearly did i gave Hull KR credit for coming from 20-6 down to win, how many teams have done that to Wigan? Fair play to Hull KR surely?

David, for fooks sake, stop moaning. We won, enjoy the victory as all other Rovers fans are doing.

its just a breath of fresh air to here we were beaten by the better side on the day, unfortunately its now all about how your team lost and lets find faults with individual players why we lost rather then giving credit to the opposition or the ref was poor..... I think you lost the point I was making!

That's probably because you remarkably manage to contradict yourself within each and every sentence. I think you're a Wigan fan? You could however be a fan of Limoux.

We should never have lost a 20 - 6 lead. But to be honest there seems to be areas for concern right across the park. There is not one position where we could say they are playing well.

Our half back pairing and the centres are woeful at the moment. And our wingers ? Is their below standard play due to the centres or the fact that at least one of them is off down under at the end of the season?
The pack is too small, and when 'Lockers' isn't playing which is getting more and more these days we are 'all at sea'. Bowen at full back offers nothing.
We don't have a decent goalkicker at all.

We are short of quality,skill, and pace, right across the park.

How on earth Waney put a positive spin on that display today I will never know.

Maybe the austerity measures imposed on the Wigan club over recent years will now show themselves to our detriment?

You cannot keep relying on the youngsters production line to win matches year on year just because it is the cheaper option. Especially when we now know that even our youngsters are now being 'poached' so God help us if we get a real talent (like another Sam Tomkins) because if we do, then rather than a team number just place a 'for sale' sign on their back.

It's a good job the standard of SL is also falling.

And there is the problem. A weak leadership team but more importantly the age of the team.

A few simple facts that may not be popular-

You need a dominant pack.

You need quality in the halves.

Wigan is not the epicentre of the rugby universe.

Our recruitment has been absolute garbage since Wane came in.

Pretty much. I wouldn't go so far as to say absolute garbage, but as already noted, players of the stature of Tomkins, Carmont, Green, Richards, Hansen etc have not been replaced by equivalent quality.

'm pretty sure you'll pull things round before too long, but on the whole your playing roster has reduced in quality every year since maguiore was your coach. Every year the other seccies think "Wigan have lost X, Y and Z, they'll not compete this year" but you've continued to stay at the top end. Maybe this is the year when things crack and you need a proper rebuild?