Wire lost to Hudds at MM last year and won the league

No they didn't, you did.

Dont know what you were watching last year but Leeds beat Bradford at Millennium Magic last year and went on to win the GRAND FINAL.

Wire lost to Huddersfield at Millennium Magic and went on to win the LEAGUE. That is why they were given the LEAGUE Leaders Shield.

Surely not even a Wigan fan could argue against that???

Wigan 12 - Leeds 22
Att - 15,972
1st try - Hardacre
MOM - Watkins

You put the wrong word in bold. LEADERS not WINNERS. Check the SL or RFL website and see who they have put down as the Super League Winners for 2011.

Wigan 18
Leeds 18
Att: 15,102 (1k away fans)

Just answer this question, who won the Super League League Leaders Shield? I never said Wire were winners of Super League just that they won the League Leaders Shield.

I know they are your rivals but give them credit where credit is due. They were the best team over 27 rounds. Its harder to win the League Leaders Shield than the Grand Final even if it doesnt get the credit it deserves.

I can accept that Wire were the best team last season and I am a leeds fan. We will forever go down as Super League Champions 2011 but Wire were the best team in 2011. From the 5 GF we have won we have only been the best team in 2 of those seasons.

They did win the leaders shield. They did not win the league.
Id say the best team are the one that play the rules the best and therefore win the GF

Head says:
Wigan 14 - Leeds 28
Att: 16,500

Heart wants the score reversed. And preferably a nilling.

And you'd be wrong. Warrington finished 13 points above Leeds and were last season's best team irrespective of a much simplified playoff format. I do take the point, however, that no-one cares. Have a so-so season then come good from the second week of Sept and you will be recognised (wrongly) as the best.

They did not "come good", Wire bottled it...

Maybe. The point is that no-one cares about the league leaders shield. What happened last season has affected my attitude this season. I don't care as much about the weekly rounds any more as I'm (fairly!) certain we'll make the playoffs and with the format as it is you don't have to beat everyone above you to win the GF. So, who cares that we lost last week or even if we lose on Saturday? Not me. The way to bring credibility to the league leaders shield is to toughen up the playoffs - which won't happen in a comp with no relegation.

Back on topic, Leeds by 6.

South stand has sold out. Crowd should be around 16k for this one.

We'll get beat though.

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Again, you have made bold the wrong word. They won the league LEADERS shield. Not the league WINNERS shield. Yes they finished top, yes they were better for 27 rounds, but the rules are (which everyone knew at the start) that the league winners are the Grand Final winners. Hence why the WCC is not Wire v Melbourne.

For the record, I dnt agree with the playoffs but they're here to stay. If we came top this year then we would not be league winners unless we won the GF. The record books will NOT show Wire as the 2011 league winners. If they even get a mention it will be as the team in pole position at playoff time.

Around 13500 sold by the looks of the site then isn't hospitality added on to that?

Add in the walk up on the night and Leeds usual 2 minibuses full and we should hopefully get above 15k.

Wigan 10 - 30 Leeds

1st try - McGuire

M.O.M - McGuire

Attendance 14,014