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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Winners
CC performance: Winners
Overated player: Pryce (overrated by being in the squad)
Underated player: Tuson
Most improved: Farrell (Will continue to improve to England level IMO)
Least improved: Pryce
Signing to watch: Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Mellor

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Salford
Least improved team: St Helens / Leeds (both due to slide)
Overated player: Leon Pryce / Ade Gardner
Underated player: Tuson
Best signing: Perry
Worst signing: Mathers
Losing a franchise: Wakey
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Winners
CC performance: Winners
Overated player: Sam Tomkins ( in full back position )
Underated player: Karl Pryce
Most improved: Karl Pryce
Least improved: Marsh
Signing to watch: Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Charnley

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Salford
Least improved team: Leeds
Overated player: Willie Mason
Underated player: Karl Pryce
Best signing: Ryan Hoffman
Worst signing: Willie Mason
Losing a franchise: Wakefield
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Win the final
CC performance: Win the Challenge Cup
Overated player: Lee Mossop
Underated player: Darrell Goulding
Most improved: Paul Prescott
Least improved: Karl Pryce
Signing to watch: Ryan Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Joe Mellor

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: Bradford
Least improved team: Wakefield
Overated player: Kris Welham
Underated player: Andy Lynch
Best signing: Ryan Hoffman
Worst signing: Phil Bailey
Losing a franchise: Wakefield
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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For Wigan
SL finish:1st
Play off performance:At least reach the Final possibly win again
CC performance:Final
Overated player:Tomkins (hes amazing but he is still overrated somehow haha)
Underated playericon_razz.gifryce (as per)
Most improved:I expect Mickey Mac
Least improvedicon_razz.gifat (can't really improve can he?)
Signing to watch:Finch because im interested to see what he gives us in the halves
Rookie to watch (10 games or less):I want to see the new Tomkins but I expect Charnley will be the one to watch

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan! icon_smile.gif
Most improved team: Bradford
Least improved team: Dire
Overated player: Briers!
Underated player: Lockers
Best signing: Monaghan (gonna bring so much comedy next season haha)
Worst signing: Monaghan (hes gonna get absolutely destroyed)
Losing a franchise: Wakey and Crusaders
Gaining a franchise: Widnes and Halifax

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For Wigan
SL finish: 1st
Play off performance: Grand Final Win
CC performance: Finalists & Winners
Overated player: Lee Mossop (At this moment in time, I feel if we can get a fully fit season out of him, my opinion would change)
Underated player: Paul Deacon.
Most improved: Mickey McIlorum
Least improved: Pat Richards - He cant get much better can he? icon_lol.gif
Signing to watch: Ryan Hoffman
Rookie to watch (10 games or less): Josh Charnley

For Super league:
Winners: Wigan
Most improved team: The Bulls
Least improved team: Leeds
Overated player: Paul Wellens
Underated player: Rangi Chase
Best signing: Matt Diskin to Bradford - Just what they need IMO.
Worst signing: Richie Mathers to Cas
Losing a franchise: Wakey
Gaining a franchise: Widnes

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Quote: jdrocket "Wigan are very confident of world domination already, I see.

Interesting.
Is that confidence, arrogance or blind hope?


Also, i don't know where this confidence that J.M won't do well is coming from.
He may not be the best in the league but he isn't rated TOO highly by anyone. People seem to be intimating absolute failure. I think that is unlikely'"


If you want an unbiased opinion pop into your local bookies.

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "If you want an unbiased opinion pop into your local bookies.'"


Well put jinkin.

Was looking at the odds at the weekend.

6/4 to win SL
6/4 to win CC

Very stingy odds indeed. Bookies seem to be even more confident than us.

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Quote: pondmonster "Well put jinkin.

Was looking at the odds at the weekend.

6/4 to win SL
6/4 to win CC

Very stingy odds indeed. Bookies seem to be even more confident than us.'"

The bookies had the rhinos out of sight this time last year.

I see the pies finishing 3rd or 4th. Then anything can happen in the play off's. Who's in form,who's fit, long term injuries to key players. It might come down to the bounce of a ball. but this season is a whole new beast for you pies.

The champions get it tougher week in week out than anyone else.

Every team has a years worth of video to copy the winning style and to try and stop it.

The refs have a year of video to see what new tricks the coaches have brought in and to shut it down( you wernt the most penalised team for nothing)

You arnt the surprise package anymore

All the expection is on you then wire.

Leeds and saints will be hurting and hungry and out of the spot light, hudds even more so who are a real threat.

You have the distraction of the world club and your star players will not have had the full preseason due to the amount of lads playing international rl

I appreciate wigan were deserved champs last year. I dont know if you will win it again or not? But the task is so much bigger than last season for sure.

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We will still win it!

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If we are good enough we'll win it, if we're not we won't.
We won't use injuries, WCC or players on tour as an excuse.

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Quote: sgtwilko "The bookies had the rhinos out of sight this time last year.

I see the pies finishing 3rd or 4th. Then anything can happen in the play off's. Who's in form,who's fit, long term injuries to key players. It might come down to the bounce of a ball. but this season is a whole new beast for you pies.

The champions get it tougher week in week out than anyone else.

Every team has a years worth of video to copy the winning style and to try and stop it.

The refs have a year of video to see what new tricks the coaches have brought in and to shut it down( you wernt the most penalised team for nothing)

You arnt the surprise package anymore

All the expection is on you then wire.

Leeds and saints will be hurting and hungry and out of the spot light, hudds even more so who are a real threat.

You have the distraction of the world club and your star players will not have had the full preseason due to the amount of lads playing international rl

I appreciate wigan were deserved champs last year. I dont know if you will win it again or not? But the task is so much bigger than last season for sure.'"


The big difference between Wigan next season and Leeds after their last win is the fact Wigan will have a considerably stronger squad going in to it, compared to the GF winning team. Not only do we have the three Melbourne players coming in, but we'll also have people like Roberts, Mossop, and Hock back competing for places as well. Leeds didn't have this improvement going into the start of 2010 from the end of 2009.

If it took other SL teams and coaches a whole year to work out how we play, things are much worse in SL than even I thought.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "If we are good enough we'll win it, if we're not we won't.
We won't use injuries, WCC or players on tour as an excuse.'"

Maybe the Rugby Gods?

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Quote: sgtwilko "Maybe the Rugby Gods?'"



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Quote: pondmonster "Well put jinkin.

Was looking at the odds at the weekend.

6/4 to win SL
6/4 to win CC

Very stingy odds indeed. Bookies seem to be even more confident than us.'"


Worst value odds ever.

Best prices on Wigan this season:

GF: 9/4 - Skybet
Shield: 7/4 - Skybet
CC: 7/2 - Bet365

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Apologies, got confused, my odds were from Betfair, and I have just rechecked them. CC odds were unavailable.

Odds on betfair are 2.54 (just over 6/4) and to 2.58 to win the GF and league leaders not CC.

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