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I thought Tomkins did well, his biggest plus being that he wasn't afraid to stand toe to toe with the opposition.

Of course there has to be a suspicion that his performance was based quite significantly on the Aussies dropping off in the second half, but that can also be said about the whole England side, which improved dramatically in the second half.

Still not too optimistic for next week though....It just seems we have a mental problem of not being able to perform for 80 minutes...Either that, or we just aren't good enough??... icon_confused.gif

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Sinfield at hooker demonstrated how poor roby's distribution was. It was no coincidence England got going with some clean ball at acting half.'"


Correct.

We have been too dependent on the scooter hooker die with the ball hooker for too long. I've been moaning about it for years, at last I have got at least one supporter.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Correct.

We have been too dependent on the scooter hooker die with the ball hooker for too long. I've been moaning about it for years, at last I have got at least one supporter.'"


You have another here. icon_wink.gif

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Sinfield at hooker demonstrated how poor roby's distribution was. It was no coincidence England got going with some clean ball at acting half.'"


I have been saying Sinfield should play Hooker for quite a while now. Then leave a spot on the becnh for extra punch in the pack which we will need against aus and NZ.

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Burgess and Crabtree was our best forwards today

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



One Thing that needs to stop is the Flat pass. it is a waste of time.

9 out of ten times the attacking player is still juggling the ball during impact with the defence. Either that or there is a knock on. it is very in-effective.

We need to get players running from deep ASAP.

IMO the flat pass is a lazy way to play the game

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Quote: tugglesf78 "One Thing that needs to stop is the Flat pass. it is a waste of time.

9 out of ten times the attacking player is still juggling the ball during impact with the defence. Either that or there is a knock on. it is very in-effective.

We need to get players running from deep ASAP.

IMO the flat pass is a lazy way to play the game'"


Look at the way the Aussies played right to left today all stood back their passing speed was un-real. We will never have that when all SL teams play the flat pass game. It bugs me they dont have any plan b we just start playing panic rugby.

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Quote: Toffee Warrior "Look at the way the Aussies played right to left today all stood back their passing speed was un-real. We will never have that when all SL teams play the flat pass game. It bugs me they dont have any plan b we just start playing panic rugby.'"


was allowed by a poor defensive line, dog legged and not taking their man created space.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Toffee Warrior "Look at the way the Aussies played right to left today all stood back their passing speed was un-real. We will never have that when all SL teams play the flat pass game. It bugs me they dont have any plan b we just start playing panic rugby.'"


It could of been stopped had Smith and McGuire not been the worst defenders I have seen in 18 years of watching international RL!

Hudds have shown on a few occasions how to defends against it when they beat saints.

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Quote: Odemwingie "It could of been stopped had Smith and McGuire not been the worst defenders I have seen in 18 years of watching international RL!

Hudds have shown on a few occasions how to defends against it when they beat saints.'"


Smith kept coming in and leaving gaps it was laughable.

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Said it on the ground..........Burgess had to show himself to prove he could play NRL (as Ellis did last year). He was the only player imo that can hold his head high and say he beat the aussies

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: pedro17 "Smith kept coming in and leaving gaps it was laughable.'"


McGuire was just as bad but people have been blinded with how bad he was in attack icon_lol.gif

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Quote: pedro17 "was allowed by a poor defensive line, dog legged and not taking their man created space.'"


I totally agree our line speed is slow and well not a line.

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Quote: Conroy "Said it on the ground..........Burgess had to show himself to prove he could play NRL (as Ellis did last year). He was the only player imo that can hold his head high and say he beat the aussies'"
I don't agree he was the only one, there was a few, apart from in the first half!
We shouldn't forget we got a 40 minute thumping but the second half was one to be proud of.

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Quote: flyingkelvin "I don't agree he was the only one, there was a few, apart from in the first half!
We shouldn't forget we got a 40 minute thumping but the second half was one to be proud of.'"


Yes, because the Aussies really played the game in the 2nd half icon_rolleyes.gif

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