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| Quote: Sharpy_4a "The rent is about 250k a year, so we not going anywhere!
Plus as has been said as soon as latics drop out of prem (this season for me, sold to much 'quality') they will need us to pay the bills.
I personally dont have a problem with playing at the stadium we do, i dont see why its such a big deal.'"
Fully agreed with you on this.
Right up until 3 o'clock yesterday.
The stadium is definately not home, but it will have to do.
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| DW stopped some under 8s playing half time rugby on friday in case they cut up the pitch before the new premier season. My little cousin was gonna play and they were all gutted. How much of a difference would have children under 8 done to the pitch in ten minutes, than the fully grown men playing 80 minutes did?? Miserable old bástard.
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "build it and they will come
perfect site straight off the motorway
all the money you save with he SC
spend on a spanking new stadium
Great. How much is it up for sale for? What's the access like? You got the planning documents?
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| Quote: ROBINSON "Great. How much is it up for sale for? What's the access like? You got the planning documents?
show enough of the queens head and you get anything you want
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| A total non starter unless IL sells out to another ambitious Multi Millionaire prepared to 'go it alone'.
We can all dream though!
Lock it.
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| Quote: MattyB "A total non starter unless IL sells out to another ambitious Multi Millionaire prepared to 'go it alone'.
We can all dream though!
Lock it.'"
rlTrevor Hemmingsrl was interested in buying the club before Lenegan came into the frame. The rumour was that he pulled out because Whelan wouldn't sell him the stadium in the deal.
He's only worth £1 billion mind
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| As has already been stated, Latics will not retain their premiership status. It may take 2 years or 5 years or even ten years but it is inevitable. Lowest crowds and cheapest season tickets cannot sustain huge salaries.
Great signings have made them competitive but they always have to sell. One day the signings won't work, there'll be no-one to sell and Whelan will bail out.
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| Had this discussion ages ago.
IIRC Katrina got a lot of info about it - and the agreement for the building of the stadia is that it would be for 'Multi-Sport Usage'. Thus if Wigan Warriors/Latics moved out the contract terms for the stadium usage would be broken.
Besides, it's simply not realistic for either club to build a new stadium anytime soon.
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| Quote: Bilko "Nothing as long as it's made available when we want to play. That play off farce last year was just blatant pettiness from Whelan.'"
I don't agree Bilko....the play off fixture was an additional ...unexpected ...unplanned fixture which NO ONE thought would occur (Wire's ineptitude under the adorable James Lowes being the bizarre catalyst behind the whole situation) would have drawn a 15,000 gate at least ....which meant unplanned and unexpected revenue for Dave Whelan...and what does he love more than money?......N'owt !
He cancelled the fixture because the ground was already in a shocking state (thanks to his unwillingness to invest in it properly...since rectified at long last).....and he was on a last warning from Premier League Chiefs who were just bursting to slap him down due to his "runaway gob" and generally inane pronouncements about all manner of things which don't concern him.
The pitch for the football was appalling and he'd been warned if there were anymore complaints from opposing Managers/Chairmen (apparently there's been plenty) then he was facing a points deduction, which could (potentially) at a stroke spell relegation for Latics and Arrividerci to the 30 million quid annual income.......In effect he was reminded that although he thinks he's "Ruthless Billy Tough Nuts" along the highways and byways of Wigan...in the company that Latics are moving in he's a `Boy Scout'l .....that's why the fixture was cancelled....the pitch was sodden...the forecast awful ....although ironically the weather leading up to the weekend wasn't nearly as bad as feared.....but all the talk of not being able to turn the ground around in time was just face saving waffle on his part, he'd been forced in to making himslef look silly..... but he wasn't going to acknowledge that in public.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "Had this discussion ages ago.
IIRC Katrina got a lot of info about it - and the agreement for the building of the stadia is that it would be for 'Multi-Sport Usage'. Thus if Wigan Warriors/Latics moved out the contract terms for the stadium usage would be broken.
Besides, it's simply not realistic for either club to build a new stadium anytime soon.'"
No I think it was Donna.
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| Quote: Luca Brazzi "I don't agree Bilko....the play off fixture was an additional ...unexpected ...unplanned fixture which NO ONE thought would occur (Wire's ineptitude under the adorable James Lowes being the bizarre catalyst behind the whole situation) would have drawn a 15,000 gate at least ....which meant unplanned and unexpected revenue for Dave Whelan...and what does he love more than money?......N'owt !
He cancelled the fixture because the ground was already in a shocking state (thanks to his unwillingness to invest in it properly...since rectified at long last).....and he was on a last warning from Premier League Chiefs who were just bursting to slap him down due to his "runaway gob" and generally inane pronouncements about all manner of things which don't concern him.
The pitch for the football was appalling and he'd been warned if there were anymore complaints from opposing Managers/Chairmen (apparently there's been plenty) then he was facing a points deduction, which could (potentially) at a stroke spell relegation for Latics and Arrividerci to the 30 million quid annual income.......In effect he was reminded that although he thinks he's "Ruthless Billy Tough Nuts" along the highways and byways of Wigan...in the company that Latics are moving in he's a `Boy Scout'l .....that's why the fixture was cancelled....the pitch was sodden...the forecast awful ....although ironically the weather leading up to the weekend wasn't nearly as bad as feared.....but all the talk of not being able to turn the ground around in time was just face saving waffle on his part, he'd been forced in to making himslef look silly..... but he wasn't going to acknowledge that in public.'"
Makes interesting reading and makes sense in a way
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| Quote: Salty "As has already been stated, Latics will not retain their premiership status. It may take 2 years or 5 years or even ten years but it is inevitable. Lowest crowds and cheapest season tickets cannot sustain huge salaries.
Great signings have made them competitive but they always have to sell. One day the signings won't work, there'll be no-one to sell and Whelan will bail out.'"
I suspect Whelan will have sold Latics before they lose there Premier League status, I have a sneaking suspicion he was very close to securing a deal just before the credit crunch bit.
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| Quote: Luca Brazzi "I don't agree Bilko....the play off fixture was an additional ...unexpected ...unplanned fixture which NO ONE thought would occur (Wire's ineptitude under the adorable James Lowes being the bizarre catalyst behind the whole situation) would have drawn a 15,000 gate at least ....which meant unplanned and unexpected revenue for Dave Whelan...and what does he love more than money?......N'owt !
He cancelled the fixture because the ground was already in a shocking state (thanks to his unwillingness to invest in it properly...since rectified at long last).....and he was on a last warning from Premier League Chiefs who were just bursting to slap him down due to his "runaway gob" and generally inane pronouncements about all manner of things which don't concern him.
The pitch for the football was appalling and he'd been warned if there were anymore complaints from opposing Managers/Chairmen (apparently there's been plenty) then he was facing a points deduction, which could (potentially) at a stroke spell relegation for Latics and Arrividerci to the 30 million quid annual income.......In effect he was reminded that although he thinks he's "Ruthless Billy Tough Nuts" along the highways and byways of Wigan...in the company that Latics are moving in he's a `Boy Scout'l .....that's why the fixture was cancelled....the pitch was sodden...the forecast awful ....although ironically the weather leading up to the weekend wasn't nearly as bad as feared.....but all the talk of not being able to turn the ground around in time was just face saving waffle on his part, he'd been forced in to making himslef look silly..... but he wasn't going to acknowledge that in public.'"
That sounds like a fairly accurate and comprehensive assessment to me.
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| Quote: Cruncher "That sounds like a fairly accurate and comprehensive assessment to me.'"
Thanking you....
I firmly believe this to be the case (I can't genuinely say where I heard this) The only point I wanted to make is that it wasn't petty Latics V Rugby politics that drove this situation, or Whelan's bloody mindedness. He had been backed into a corner (nice for the boot to be on the other foot for a change some might say) and didn't really have a choice....but he was never going to be up front in public and effectively declare that he'd had his hands slapped and his "card marked" was he ?
Which coming back to this post's original premise.....a shared stadium is the only viable way forward for both clubs, regardless of Latics Premiership status which they can't hold on to forever...they've already performed miracles and an end will come ...one way or the other....as and when it does by the way ...our share of the Stadium running costs goes up significantly ! (IL has inferred this on several occasions)
The concept of a shared ground will be much easier to sustain amongst the supporters of both clubs however when both DW and Maurice L disappear into the sunset....as the baggage both of them bring are a constant running sore that undermines any ideal of togetherness.
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