Give me Wigan's kids over Saints youth any day of the week.

Wigan’s junior development is what will really help us stay there or thereabouts for years to come, unless Lam ignores it and there’s no signs of him doing that. We’ve seen debuts for five lads this year and we’ve got a real gem on our hands in Smithies. We also have numerous others who’ve either debuted or are awaiting their debut who could be pretty special. They’re used to winning, they’re used to beating St Helens on a regular basis and if we’re savvy with recruitment, then once Saints suffer those big departures (and they’re coming, could be within a year, could be 2 or 3 years but they’re coming) we’ll take back over.

Ah the Saints youth!!

Whilst Wigans first team have been winning Grand Finals, Challenge Cups and WCC, their academy has won nine of the last eleven Grand Finals and currently lead the table again.

And for age the current Wigan 1st team is younger than the Saints one, who have about six or seven aged 30 or over. A recent report also showed that Wigan have the fewest overseas players in Superleague.

btw is your map to Wembley still on parchment?

I know a few Saints fans that have recently had to buy the Bohemian Rhapsody movie to remind them of their last wins there.

I can't believe how bad Lomax has played in this semi, somebody somewhere said he was the standout player in super league?

To be fair, Halifax have given us more of a game than Wigan have this season and they are part time

we will take that as a concession that Lomax isn't the standout player some people believe he is then

Wembley...
Wire or Saints?

Wait till we see the teams, 3 games before final, not and never would wish injury on anyone but it'll be a long month for both teams, anything could happen.

Saints should win comfortably but they struggled to put a mid table championship side away yesterday, so it looks like there’s still some mental frailties they’ll need to overcome. They’re probably lucky to be playing the frailest of them all when it comes to winning finals though.

Saints by 12

Not Challenge Cup finals though. Warrington have a good record there.

Warrington have more final experience recently (although they lost the last five they've played in) - think its too close to call.

You could argue that Saints played as badly in the semi this year as they did in last year's. They looked a bit lost without Coote.

A lot will depend on how healthy the squads are in a month's time.

They did have but they’ve lost their last two there and it’s those two most of this squad remember.

It’s an intriguing final because of huge amount of final losses both sides have. Saints really should be too good for them but yesterday must’ve got some alarm bells ringing for them and it’ll give everyone in superleague a reminder that knock out games and finals are totally different to run of the mill league games. Saints 2018 and Cas 2017 know that only too well.

If anything, it should have got some alarm bells ringing for Wigan seeing as though Halifax give us a better game than you have in any of our 3 meetings. The idea that we were going to put 60 on Halifax is nonsense. It was their biggest game of the season and as their season is effectively finished and has been for a while they were always going to give everything and match us for effort and intensity. Throw that in with the rain and us having to shift players about because of Coote’s injury a 24 point win was probably about right. An easy win and off to Wembley we go. If Warrington want to beat us they need to change everything about their attack, it’s blunt and predicatble. I’d much rather play them than Hull.

The Fax players had been working on building sites and farms in the intense heat all week and you struggled to put them away. Using excuses like ‘it was raining’ or ‘we were missing Lachlan Coote’ really won’t wash and it was clear your players were having a few mental wobbles.

Dress it up how you like, make out in your mind that it’s the rest of superleague who should actually feel worried because they’re somehow inferior to a part time team, struggling in the championship but teams will be using yesterday as a blueprint and the signs from your lads yesterday should be a huge worry to your supporters.