Dodds a top prospect but before his injury, he had zero assists, playing behind that pack.

Take the 20 Challenge Cup wins from our record and we would not be the Cup Kings! It’s a pointless argument.

But would still have won more trophies than every other club

We were without French for the first quarter of the season and seemed to be doing alright.

Best scrum half didnt realise Harry had signed for you,Dodds maybe good but he aint Harry thats for sure.

Just catching up on this thread and I don't think either Dodd or Smith would have made the final squad, I think the fact hed spoken to Jackson Hastings tells you that

Yes but then we was just a one man team!

Honestly, i hate when this argument comes up against Wigan, we have speed in our backs so we play a style of rugby that compliments that and gets them players into try scoring positions. If we was just passing the ball to Field and French every play then the rest of the team stops running and scratches their 's like an u7's match i would have to agree with Stu.

There is so much more to our team than that though, we won the game friday on merit of our goal line defence and the effort our lads put in for eachother, that was far from all Field and French! Not to mention some great attacking play from many other members of our squad. Field and French are intergrated into our game structure, not the beginning and end of it.

You can't go saying things like that!

Repeat after me:

Wigan have pace and nothing else

Wigan are a two man team.

The rest of the squad are "bang average".

Wigan only beat Saints because of injuries.

Even then they only beat them if they play at their best and Saints couldn't have played any worse.

There are no other ways to win a game of rugby other than territory. Saints are the best at gaining territory ergo they are always the best team on the field regardless of scoreline or any other factors.


Repeat 10 times morning and night and we'll soon have these silly ideas out of your head.

Well anyway if rumours are to be believed we'll have Hopoate, Makinson, Percival and Sione all back for the play-offs so there will be no excuses.

Hopoate, Makinson, Hurrell, Sione, Percival, Welsby, Lomax would be a dream to be able to put out in the semi - here's hoping . . . .

Will be very interesting indeed to see how we line up vs Toulouse at the weekend.

No excuses, pah !!! We'll never hear the end of it when they've all hobbled off after 5 mins

I fear you might be right about the hobbling! The Toulouse game is make or break for two or three players' seasons I'd suggest.

I hope you do have a full as much as poss squad.

Didnt Makinson,Percival,Welsby,Lomax,Hurrell play in the last semi you lost,Will Sione and Hopoate make that much difference ?