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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Catalancs "So it isn't a true groundshare Rogues?
Genuinely thought that was set in stone from the off with the council.'"
I really don't know. I was surprised when I read that.
Does it make any difference to Wigan RLFC as the article states they still have a 50 year lease at the stadium.
If Whelan pulls out then I suppose all it would mean is that Wigan Athletic would have something to borrow money against.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I really don't know. I was surprised when I read that.
Does it make any difference to Wigan RLFC as the article states they still have a 50 year lease at the stadium.
If Whelan pulls out then I suppose all it would mean is that Wigan Athletic would have something to borrow money against.'"
You're right, it shouldn't make much, if any difference to us.
Just thinking I might owe my Latics mates an apology
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| Whelan must be getting really worried now by their lack of support
as it would appear that the novelty factor of being in the Premiership has well and truely worn off.
I know yesterday was an away game but The Daily Express today reported that they had 376 Fans at Everton !
Ok its more expensive to watch than Rugby but thats shocking by anyones standards!
Its so so sad !
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[b:3rwwi1cz][color=#800000:3rwwi1cz]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018 & 2023
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020 & 2023
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 & 2019
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011 & 2012
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| Looking at that, where the hell is football going?
Aresnal Debts - £416m
Turnover £222.5m
Chelsea Debts - £701m
Turnover £213.6m
Liverpool Debts - £280m
Turnover £159m
United Debts - £699m
Turnover £256.2m
Latics Debts - £66.4m
Turnover - £43m
Did you notice that the Turnover breakdown wasn't listed for Latics unlike other clubs? Look at Bolton to compareTurnover £59.1m (up from £51m last year
Other than Whelan's backing & SKY money of approx £30m, Latics only other income would be about £5m Gate & Match Day (There crowds are lower than Bolton's). Plus a bit of Corporate & Sponsorship.
Can only see that debt grow to over £100m in the next couple of years, if they get relegated then what was it all for, and where do they go???? No wonder he won't open his £70m warchest.
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| Cheapest season ticket in the division and prices frozen for three consecutive seasons. This is the first year since Whelan took ovcer that Latics' season ticket sales haven't increased on the previous season.
Still don't think they'll go down despite what some of the loyal Latics fans will tell you. That's nothing to do with Latics but more due to Burnley, Birmingham, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Hull , Wolves and Bolton.
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Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10174.png |
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| I read somewhere not long ago that Plastics had reduced their debt since those accounts were published - mainly due to offloading players and not splashing out on replacements. That can only go on for so long until their club is too weak to stay in the Prem.
My own feeling is that Whelan is looking to reduce their debt to zero and bail out ASAP. Wouldn't be surprised to see DW Sports replacing Mecca Bingo next season too...
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| Quote: Orrell Lad "I read somewhere not long ago that Plastics had reduced their debt since those accounts were published - mainly due to offloading players and not splashing out on replacements. That can only go on for so long until their club is too weak to stay in the Prem.
My own feeling is that Whelan is looking to reduce their debt to zero and bail out ASAP. Wouldn't be surprised to see DW Sports replacing Mecca Bingo next season too...'"
I'm getting very worried about all this talk about Whelan coming back to Wigan.
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| Quote: Catalancs "I'm getting very worried about all this talk about Whelan coming back to Wigan.'"
It's not as far-fetched as some people might think!! If I could get odds at a bookies I'd stick on Whelan being owner again in the next 12 months
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| Quote: Orrell Lad "It's not as far-fetched as some people might think!! If I could get odds at a bookies I'd stick on Whelan being owner again in the next 12 months
Please stop!
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| i cant believe some of you actually would want the kaiser back.
my point of view as a latics fan is that whelans lost intrest,hes seen the clubs support drop as a lot of the plastics have lost intrest after the prem noveltys worn off,even though season tickets are great value the club have got thier matchday pricind drastically wrong it was 28 pound for the utd game and 14 pound for kids
basically whelan has sold off all the clubs best players to reduce the clubs debt{by the way this debt isnt that crippling as its intrest free because its basically the money the club owes whelan}and hes no longer prepared to spend the money thats needed too see the club operate at premiership level.
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| Quote: ned76 "i cant believe some of you actually would want the kaiser back.
my point of view as a latics fan is that whelans lost intrest,hes seen the clubs support drop as a lot of the plastics have lost intrest after the prem noveltys worn off,even though season tickets are great value the club have got thier matchday pricind drastically wrong it was 28 pound for the utd game and 14 pound for kids
basically whelan has sold off all the clubs best players to reduce the clubs debt{by the way this debt isnt that crippling as its intrest free because its basically the money the club owes whelan}and hes no longer prepared to spend the money thats needed too see the club operate at premiership level.
Who wants him back?
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| Whelan hasnt got the cash to sustain a premiership club, he knows it, its time the fans accepted it.
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| Quote: AJ "Whelan hasnt got the cash to sustain a premiership club, he knows it, its time the fans accepted it.'"
Will he have the cash to sustain a Championship club?
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| orrell lad seems keen
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[b:3rwwi1cz][color=#800000:3rwwi1cz]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
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| A there or thereabouts list of the Prem's owners and their worthBolton Edwin Davies £100m
Chelsea Roman Abramovich $8.5b
Everton Bill Kenwright & Robert Earl & Jon Woods £365m
Fulham Mohamed Al Fayed £550m
Hull Isis Nominees Unknown
Liverpool Tom Hicks & George Gillett $1.5b
Man City Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan $750b
Man Utd Malcolm Glazer & Family $2b
Middlesborough Steve Gibson £112m
Newcastle Mike Ashley £700m
Portsmouth Alexandre Gaydamak £100m
Stoke Peter Coates £175m
Sunderland Ellis Short £7.5b
Tottenham Daniel Levy & Joe Lewis $13b
West Brom Jeremy Peace Unknown
West Ham Bjorgulfur Gudmundsson $1.2b
Wigan Dave Whelan £150m
As you can see the list is split between Billionaires & Multi Millionaires.
I'd say that the Prem is now a Billionaires Plaything, the wages & debts involved are far too high for your average Multi Millionaire.
I'd expect the ones in Bold to either sell out shortly or take on additional investment.
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