A fair post, difficult to disagree with any of it.

I’m still concerned that we can’t reach the intensity to trouble Saints. There were some positive steps against Wakefield but they were significantly under strength and I think people have gone a bit overboard with praise of the team to be honest, not that I blame them after the dross we’ve put up with in recent times.

I don't think it was overboard Danny. We had more missing than them. They had first choice winger Johnstone missing, we had first choice winger Marshall missing. They had first choice forward Fafita missing, we had first choice forward Ellis. The only non like for like was Miller.

I know you could argue that the missing players are more important to them than ours are to us but they've been winning without some of those players recently anyway and, in truth, didn't seem to be hindering them too much, particularly in the early parts of that game. We were just better.

I found it annoying that the report of the match posted by the news hound said Wakefield had players missing while we were almost at full strength when we had the most players missing. I put that down to lazy journalism but perhaps Wigan missing players doesn't count as much as other teams missing them. I'm at a loss as to why though.

I’d be more concerned about Hurrell running at Field!

To be honest I would be more concerned Field/French running around Hurrell

They won’t get that opportunity. Saints will control and Isolate Hurrell vs those two and we know they can’t defend. He’ll have a couple if stroll overs. Field and French can go around any player if they get space, but not sure they will…..or if they do will be one off…..

“We know they can’t defend”

Do we? Where have you seen that? Field has been superb defensively this season. French has hardly played and will be on the wing anyway, so it’s unlikely he’ll have to do much tackling.

He only strolled over once against Leeds, so we should be ok. I think there’s every chance Saints leave him out anyway, that’s how much they trust him.

I would personally leave him out, put Hopoate where he should be be at centre and put Simm on the wing. But I would be surprised of Woolf does that now.

I’m half expecting you guys to do that. Saints have made so many good decisions regards recruitment this past few seasons but I’m scratching my head at the Hurrell one. He’s so far removed from what I see in the typical Saints player it’s untrue. I believe you got him on a great deal, so it’s probably worth the punt but still. He’ll probably batter us tomorrow now but his moments are fleeting and he’s usually burnt out after 20 minutes.

I think with a fully fit team he would be on the bench at best as an impact back row. Unfortunately Hopoate has barely played (although I am underwhelmed by his signing) and Grace has played one game all season so Hurrell has been needed.

With a fully fit team it will be 2. Makinson 3. Hopoate 4. Percival 5. Grace

I think he has played more than was intended to be honest. Injuries to Grace and Hopoate have forced our hand. With a full squad to choose from he wouldn't play I don't think.

I agree though it's a weird one with him and not a signing I was over the moon about. Jury still out on it for me.

There seemed to be a bit of talk of maybe using him as an impact back rower from the bench. That could work better in short spells. I’m surprised Simm hasn’t got more of a go at centre, rather than on the wing. He looked excellent at academy level.

I agree Simm looked good at Academy level but if I'm honest I've always seen him as solid rather than spectacular. Maybe thats harsh given he's barely played at centre for the first team which is his natural position. A big part of me wonders if he will end up somewhere else long term.

It doesn’t always translate to first team performances I suppose. We’ve got the same doubts over somebody like Harry Smith. On the flip side you get lads who don’t massively stand out at academy level, who then smash it in the first team.

I like/understand the Hurrell signing.

We talk about Thornley being a moneyball signing and Hurrell is in that bracket for me. They've taken a punt on him and he comes with little risk, but a chance of a decent enough return.