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Did they kneel before kick off again?

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Quote: post "Did they kneel before kick off again?'"


They sure did.

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Quote: post "Did they kneel before kick off again?'"


They wont do it when fans are back in the grounds
The reason is they will be booed and jeered
To me thats hypocrisy

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Quote: FearTheVee "So when the players in your team take a knee, you think they are doing it as part of a marxist coup? Do you really, really believe that?

You seem upset that something with good intentions has been hijacked by people with certain views you and many others legitimately don't agree with. But by deliberately refusing to acknowledge the clear differences between someone like Michael Lawrence taking a knee (note not kneeling subserviently) and a radical political party you are contributing to and perpetuating the hijack.

People who refuse to see the difference between taking a knee and kneeling, the roots of taking the knee in peaceful demonstration against injustice and a radical political party and parrot "all lives matter" in response to anyone saying "black lives matter" do so to deliberately diminish what people are seeking to achieve. Things like comparing racism to being called a pie-eater sit in the same camp.

But there were always going to be those that did - it's the very reason the movement needs to exist in the first place.'"


Is this true? Isn't the USA movement posited on the killing of black men by the police, and the migration of the movement into this country based on same suggested racist and disproportionate use of force/violence/killing of black men in this country. I don't think either the statistics or the actual substance of the protest is as uncontentious as you make out, irrespective of the abolishing capitalism and the nuclear family stuff. If Murdoch is supporting it, then something's definitely wrong.

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Quote: bonaire "They wont do it when fans are back in the grounds
The reason is they will be booed and jeered
To me thats hypocrisy'"


Source?
And Booed & Jeered by who exactly?
And how can it be Hypocrisy when it hasn't happened and you have Zero evidence that it will?

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Quote: M@islebugs "If Murdoch is supporting it, then something's definitely wrong.'"

What's it got to do with Murdoch?

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "What's it got to do with Murdoch?'"


Nothing.anymore. Apologies.

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Quote: Jukesays "Source?
And Booed & Jeered by who exactly?
And how can it be Hypocrisy when it hasn't happened and you have Zero evidence that it will?'"


Its happening already in the USA by fans in the stadiums. Have a look at some of the newspaper articles
It will happen for sure at football grounds here and in my opinion R/L.
The hypocrisy will be by players who now conform but wont when fans are in the ground.
Like it or not what you see at football grounds in the form of racism will continue and you cant stop fans booing and jeering.
This BLM movement having made a point would be better especially in London helping the Police combat Black crime rather than adding to their workload
In order to nip this in the bud the sports authorities should advise all players that when fans are back in stadiums not to take the knee

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Quote: bonaire "Its happening already in the USA by fans in the stadiums. Have a look at some of the newspaper articles
It will happen for sure at football grounds here and in my opinion R/L.
The hypocrisy will be by players who now conform but wont when fans are in the ground.
Like it or not what you see at football grounds in the form of racism will continue and you cant stop fans booing and jeering.
This BLM movement having made a point would be better especially in London helping the Police combat Black crime rather than adding to their workload
In order to nip this in the bud the sports authorities should advise all players that when fans are back in stadiums not to take the knee'"


So stop racism by letting the racists booing win.
Combat Black Crime
Hmmm this should be interesting

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Quote: Jukesays "So stop racism by letting the racists booing win.
Combat Black Crime
Hmmm this should be interesting'"

A black guy gets choked to death and the white people's response is to set up a 'Combat Black Crime' initiative. icon_lol.gif Frightening lack of awareness, I think that potentially beats the person who thinks it's comparable with insults towards Wiganers or gingers.

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Quote: Grimmy "A black guy gets choked to death and the white people's response is to set up a 'Combat Black Crime' initiative.
Watch series 7 episode 20 of last week tonight with John Oliver (Especially the last half hour)
And despite the UK not being at the same level the same systemic issues that way, our country is certainly plagued by systemic race/class issues and the way we view our history

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Quote: Grimmy "A black guy gets choked to death and the white people's response is to set up a 'Combat Black Crime' initiative.
Don't you ever get vertigo sat on your high horse?

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Quote: Grimmy "A black guy gets choked to death and the white people's response is to set up a 'Combat Black Crime' initiative.
What about the white lad in Glasgow who was murdered by a gang of five Asians, the killing of the army band lad, the killing of the unarmed police officer at the Houses of Parliament etc, etc.

Just as racist, but no getting down on one knee or raising a clenched fist for them, only it would appear for a black violent career criminal in the USA

And the situation is not helped by players acting like a bunch of sheep led by the shepherd called BLM.

As a result, racial relations in our country has been set back years!

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You know what ruddy. You're right. All this talk that black people get the rough end of the stick is clearly not true. How was I so blind?!

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