Thought last nights was the best game of a very good bunch so far.

Haha. You do understand that hookers don't play against each other 1 v 1 don't you? Just because Wigan have been more successful than Saints in the last 3 years and have beaten us more times than we beat you, that doesn't mean McIlorum "owned" Roby.

Interestingly, Roby was named no.9 in the Dream Team in 2011 and 2012 and has been England's regular no.9. Not bad for someone who has been "owned."

I think sometimes it is easy to be blinkered and assume our own is better than anything else out there. But it's also very short-sighted. If Saints fans came on here saying Lomax should be England's no.1 you would all say it was a load of nonsense; suggesting McIlorum is England's best hooker is just as ridiculous to everyone but you Wigan fans.

To say MM has owned Roby for 3 years is a tad much! However, on the last 2 seasons I would put MM in my team ahead of any other hooker in SL. Roby is outstanding has been the best 9 in SL for a very long time. Last season though, he was devastated by injuries and both Lunt & MM therefore had better seasons. I like Roby but I wouldn't swap MM for him! McBanana has his favourites regardless of form. Roby is one of them as is Sinfield.

A very mature response; not one that I normally get on here.

To be honest I see your point with regards to this season. It could be argued that Roby hasn't played enough to warrant starting for England and whilst I would have been a bit surprised had he been left out, I would have understood it to a certain extent.
However McNamara is obviously well aware of what he is capable of and when all the no.9s in England are on top form Roby is comfortably the best in my opinion.

I very much agree with you on the issue of McNamara and him being very stubborn in his selection. I don't believe Sinfield and Chase had to do anything this season in order to get picked, it seems that decision was made a long time ago and he is sticking to it regardless.

Ablett over Farrell is another ridiculous one for me. I'd also have Mossop over Tom Burgess, but I'd have Crabtree over both of them if I'm honest.

poor poor Wales performance today.
Mr Harris hasnt done his rep any good with this World Cup. No creativity, no passion, not up to standard. 24 unanswered points.
Miracle needed now

They've been poor apart from Kopczak who has stood out for them.

Paulo, Priestly, Offerdahl, Pettybourne and Newton have looked good for USA.

Harris not covering himself in glory. Too much arm wrestle.

USA well better coached. Although the comeback is on.

Is Whether Roby or MM are should play on form a bit of an oversimplification, is it not as much if not more about who fits into the overall team system.

didn't take long did it!

Thou shalt not talk bad about Jim Roby, because nobody could ever play better than him. Ever.

You're probably right, but to know the answer to that you would have to be able to understand McNamara!

So what's the crack with Hardaker? If you can't say on here PM me

It oozes out of every awful and cringeworthy message you post. It must just really hurt that that big bully Mickey Mac shows Roby up every time they step on the field against each other.

Quote: post "So what's the crack with Hardaker? If you can't say on here PM me'" www.loverugbyleague.com/news_137 ... squad.html first Hock, now Hardaker...doesnt exactly all smell of roses in the England camp

Quote: post "So what's the crack with Hardaker? If you can't say on here PM me'" www.loverugbyleague.com/news_137 ... squad.html first Hock, now Hardaker...doesnt exactly all smell of roses in the England camp

Haha. I will never understand people like you. Going out of your way to pick a fight simply because I don't share the same opinion as you. It's probably because of people like you that Rugby League fans are still seen as unintelligent cavemen by some folk.

I would genuinely be interested to know exactly what I have said in this conversation about Roby and McIlorum that could be described as awful and cringeworthy. Also, I'd be equally as interested to see your response if a Wigan fan had written the exact same comments as I had.