I always do, its a ritual with me every night, clean teeth, have a pee, break wind, check under bed, not always in that order though, I'm not mad am I nurse................................

It already is responding. Wane has been asked about it and responds with "no comment" which just fuels the rumours even more.

No one excpects the club to respond to every rumour going because there is nothing in 99% of them. It's when its obvious something is going on and we end up hearing it last from our club and usually when players leave first from the club the player ends up at that is the problem.



It's blindingly obvious there is something going on here and the fans want to know if Hock is going to continue to be a Wigan player or not. It's not that unreasonable.

Yes, until something is sorted out as to his actual future. Then and only then should the club respond to those who want to know every bit of tickle tackle.

If this happened pre-Christmas how many Hock shirts have been sold whilst the club knew he was never going to play for us again?

I'm not devastated by the loss of a top player capable of so many bad performances and so many stupid penalties but the club's handling of it has been awful from the fans point of view. When it became such common knowledge that he was off or even that something was wrong there should have been a statement along the lines of "GH will be disciplined for an act of pig-headed stupidity" to at least warn those not on here/ checking comments on the observer website.

It wouldn't have have made any difference to me but I'd wager a good few fans would have had second thoughts about renewing/taking up season tickets if they knew a(nother) star player was leaving. Maybe IL was being smarter than we thought.

Main thing is, how can you "comment" if you don't have any answers?.. You are assuming that all the answers are there, how do you know they are? Everything you say is assumption assumption assumption.

I would expect there to be unrest in any and every squad, we can all assume that others would looking to improve their careers too, but the club don't owe us anything in the way of statements if they have nothing to state. We can all assume of course, and i'm sure there are some problems between Hock and the club, but his record for trouble has not been the best has it? Whether its a clash with Wane, who can say. My only concern is that this is not affecting the morale of the squad, i don't give a diddly squat what i know, i'm not that important as an individual.

Ive heard a rumour about Sam, Lockers, Josh and HH
All looking for a move

But i;ll believe it when i see it, ..or when Wane says "no comment"

And then people would have said: "Yeah, but what was it? Come on, we have a right to know."

First of all, there is no common knowledge that he is off. There is a suspicion that he is in dispute with the club. In the light of that, and given that this is Gareth Hock we are talking about - whose history the Wigan fans know only too well - can you genuinely not see that there might be some things the club may not be happy talking about in public? Serious question.

Given they don't respond to rumour and speculation there isn't really anything else to say. He was asked the question he played it back the way they always do.



There obviously is something going on, but the time to say something is when the issue is sorted one way or another. As an employee of the club, Hock has the right for the club to say absolutely nothing about him until he isn't here one way or another.

I'm not quite sure what rival fans have got to extract the urine about - other than a Wigan player notorious for giving his club a headache, has now given them another one (in his own inimitable way, right at the start of the new season) ... which is hardly Wigan RL's fault.

I'm also not sure how the club have handled this badly. In truth, we don't know how they're handling it, as they are clearly not yet in a position to tell us. But to be honest, you got it right in your first sentence - there are some things better left unsaid. Unless you're completely prepared to dismiss that notion, which you obviously aren't, then I don't understand the insistence on a public statement.

So you want Wigan to announce something (That legally or whatever they may not be in a position to do) just to save you from embarrassment in front of some work mates?
And the day Rugby League spends more time talking about what happens off the pitch ala Football than what happens on it because the game is that Boring is the day I stop watching!

Sometimes I get the feling that some people would rather we had a "Virtual" game played through Social Media than an actual game on the pitch!

The reason everything is all based on 'assumption' is because the club are not making any official statements on the situation. I accept they may not have all the details or want to wash their dirty laundry in public but there is clearly something going on as the whole rhetoric around Hock had him going to Parra and now Widnes. If these stories or rumors are making the national papers and virtually every other media outlet in RL then they can't be far off the mark IMO.

I would like to reiterate the points on selling merchandise and season tickets off the back of the clubs ambitions for this season made a earlier in this thread. Fans commit their hard earned cash off the back of the clubs ongoing ambitions and player recruitment/retention in the main. Our recruitment has been poor IMO and the the departure of many experienced players has left us thread bare yet SW thinks our squad looks stronger than last year?

I have made the point several times on here over the last twelve months but IL is a business man and as stated in 2011 the club is now making a profit. With the departure of key players on large contracts and the sale of JT their is now even more potential of increased revenue and profit margins. The club may have made investments in other areas - facilities, backroom staff etc but it certainly isn't in the playing roster.

I seriously hope they prove me wrong this season, however if we fall short again i think heads will roll!!

Or Tittle Tattle even?