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Seriously, I have a bad feeling about this.

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Not looking good!

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Quote: "The Rugby Football League have rejected the conditional offer from the ABC consortium for administration-hit Super League club Bradford Bulls. '"


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Quote: Geoff "Not looking good!

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This could actually be good for the game in the long run.
Having Bulls (or even Salford) drop out would allow the RFL to create a Cumbrian team for SL, which would expand the game into an area of proven player quality/history, whilst also having a team in the Championship who have the ability to maintain a decent chance of surviving when they are brought back into SL.
The thought of Bulls being replaced by a smallish Yorkshire outfit like Fev, Sheffield or Halifax would struggle to improve the game.
The only question is - would a Team Cumbria be acceptable to the likes of Worky, Barrow and Haven ? None of them are looking able to submit a single application on their own, so this may work (the same way that les Cats has)

I honestly dont believe that a reduction in the no of teams back to 12 is feasible, as the TV money is now so crucial to the survival of the game.

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Quote: ShortArse "This could actually be good for the game in the long run.
Having Bulls (or even Salford) drop out would allow the RFL to create a Cumbrian team for SL, which would expand the game into an area of proven player quality/history, whilst also having a team in the Championship who have the ability to maintain a decent chance of surviving when they are brought back into SL.
The thought of Bulls being replaced by a smallish Yorkshire outfit like Fev, Sheffield or Halifax would struggle to improve the game.
The only question is - would a Team Cumbria be acceptable to the likes of Worky, Barrow and Haven ? None of them are looking able to submit a single application on their own, so this may work (the same way that les Cats has)

I honestly dont believe that a reduction in the no of teams back to 12 is feasible, as the TV money is now so crucial to the survival of the game.'"


Team Cumbria will never be feasible IMO. It's too far from Barrow to the 2 teams up the coast and there's too much rivalry between Workington and Whitehaven for a merger to be an option. I agree that Cumbria needs a team, if the effort that the RFL put in to fast tracking Crusaders in to SL was put in to a Cumbrian team there's a chance they'd have been an established SL team now. The problems those teams have is none of them are anywhere near meeting a lot of the license criteria and would need a lot of time and money to get to such a stage. It's looking likely that all 3 will be promoted in to the Championship next year, perhaps one of them can get themselves ready for a SL license application in future years. It's not feasible atm but a Cumbrian team in SL would certainly be a good asset, but it would have to be a one of the exisiting teams as a single bid.

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I think this could turn out bad for the Bulls, the RFL think (quite rightly) they have been perceived stupid over giving them a licence in the first place, so won’t want to take too much of a risk now. That could be curtains, windows and doors for Bradford. Sad really! Hope they stay.

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Team Cumbria will never be feasible IMO. It's too far from Barrow to the 2 teams up the coast and there's too much rivalry between Workington and Whitehaven for a merger to be an option. I agree that Cumbria needs a team, if the effort that the RFL put in to fast tracking Crusaders in to SL was put in to a Cumbrian team there's a chance they'd have been an established SL team now. The problems those teams have is none of them are anywhere near meeting a lot of the license criteria and would need a lot of time and money to get to such a stage. It's looking likely that all 3 will be promoted in to the Championship next year, perhaps one of them can get themselves ready for a SL license application in future years. It's not feasible atm but a Cumbrian team in SL would certainly be a good asset, but it would have to be a one of the exisiting teams as a single bid.'"



but what above basing a club in-between the two areas, Millom (the home to the oldest amatuer RL club in the world), would be an ideal area to base such a club, 30 minutes from Barrow and around 35 from Whitehaven, The Cumbria Atoms based at Salthouse Park, sounds good to me icon_cheers.gif

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If the Bulls do go then SL could well go down to 13 clubs next season.
There seems to be a feeling amongst club chairmen that 14 are too many clubs for SL so they may take the opportunity to reduce by one as a starter.
Not a good move IMO but I can see it happening.

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The situation is getting more and more serious, as the latest offer has also been rejected by the RFL.

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The Rugby Football League has rejected the second bid submitted by the ABC consortium for Bradford Bulls.
An original conditional bid was rejected last Thursday before a second bid was submitted on Friday.
It is believed the consortium want assurances over the club's Super League future as well as being allowed to buy back the club's Odsal ground.
Meanwhile, the RFL is continuing to talk to the club's administrators about funding the players' wages for August.
"We have been consistent that we are unable to consider any offers which comes with strings attached," RFL director of licensing Blake Solly said.
"It is disappointing that the ABC consortium are still unable to submit an unconditional offer."
When the initial bid was placed, administrator Brendan Guilfoyle warned that he could not envisage any consortium being willing to purchase the club if there was a chance it would not be in the top flight next season.
He said at the time: "The best the RFL will get is a conditional bid. The consortium I'm dealing with won't move forward with the club in the second tier. It would be a totally different business model.
"I'm here to save the Bradford Bulls as a Super League club."
The Bulls have been in administration for over a month, having entered it on 26 June when efforts to raise £1m to keep the club afloat proved unsuccessful.
On Monday, Solly voiced concerns about the second bid being a conditional one, saying he did not expect the board to accept it.
He reiterated that any offer for the club would have to be unconditional and cast doubt on the details of the bids placed for the club so far.
"The position with Bradford Bulls is identical to that faced by Widnes Vikings and Wakefield Trinity Wildcats, who were taken out of administration in 2007 and 2011, respectively, by new owners without any guarantee as to which competition they would be playing in," he added.
"All enquirers have been informed that the RFL is only interested in receiving offers for Bradford Bulls which are free from any condition pertaining to competition membership or the re-acquisition of Odsal Stadium.
"The ABC consortium have also been informed that any unconditional offer would also have to be accompanied by a detailed business plan, the identity of all material shareholders and proposed directors and the appropriate proof that the required levels of funding are in place.
"Unfortunately the ABC consortium have been unable to supply any of the above information, leaving the RFL with no option but to deem the offer unacceptable."
Earlier on Wednesday the acting chairman of the Bulls had appealed to the RFL to give the club some clarity on what division they are likely to be in next season.
Stephen Coulby said the uncertainty over the club's future was putting off potential investors and was unfair on current employees.
"If the club is at best to be a Championship club for a period of at least two years please let any prospective purchasers know this, so that they can decide whether to proceed with their interest and plan accordingly," he said.
"The continuing uncertainty is impacting not only on potential investors but in particular on the lives and families of the staff and players at the club, who are in no way responsible for the financial crisis and whose efforts at this time cannot be praised too highly."

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How many people has Brian Nobel had sacked in all of this? Rumour has it he's pulling the strings behind the scenes, good people are losing their jobs

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Quote: Mash Butty "How many people has Brian Nobel had sacked in all of this? Rumour has it he's pulling the strings behind the scenes, good people are losing their jobs'"




He deserves a prize.

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Quote: twosevenzero "He deserves a prize.'"


No Bull.

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Quote: twosevenzero "He deserves a prize.'"

I'm talking about coaches from Wigan who havent done anything wrong and Nobby has cleared them out so he can get his mates back in.
Its good to know you want fellow wiganers to lose their jobs.....

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Quote: Mash Butty "I'm talking about coaches from Wigan who havent done anything wrong and Nobby has cleared them out so he can get his mates back in.
Its good to know you want fellow wiganers to lose their jobs.....'"


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And now the SL clubs have joined forces to save Bradford.... I hope this works out but it sounds far from straighforward to me....

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Maybe once the SL clubs have saved Bradford they can turn their attention to saving themselves and the professional game....

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