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| Quote: Dave26 "Taken from Richie Mathers' twitter
Makes you wonder if it is just down to money. I really do think that RL players have no interest in actually playing Union. It all comes down to $$$
Is Wigan now just seen as a feeder club to english Rugby Union these days??
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| Quote: kobashi "Makes you wonder if it is just down to money. I really do think that RL players have no interest in actually playing Union. It all comes down to $$$
Is Wigan now just seen as a feeder club to english Rugby Union these days??'"
Of course it does. Sam and Joel have already won everything they can for Wigan, the next step up without leaving the country is unfortunately Union, and with that comes a ridiculous amount of money.
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| Quote: kobashi "Makes you wonder if it is just down to money. I really do think that RL players have no interest in actually playing Union. It all comes down to $$$
Is Wigan now just seen as a feeder club to english Rugby Union these days??'"
Of course it's the money. Do you think any genuine RL players would move to Union if they were offered the same wages they're on in SL right now?
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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| A superb post on the Saints site from Mugwump. I never thought I would agree with any of his posts, but fair play to him.
Quote: Mugwump "I hardly think the Sunday Times is likely to include half-a-dozen league players in a list of promising players destined for the England RU side. It would be an embarrassment to the sport. As for them being put-off by recent signings - not likely. They had their fingers burned handing Farrell a gargantuan contract when he was a year either side of being shot. It didn't take them long to rectify the error. It takes time for any player to acclimatize to a new sport, which is why they (England RU - NOT the clubs) are now going exclusively for players age 19-22.
You've listed most of England's major targets over the past ten years. It should be said that just about all of them have been successful in some shape or form at club level and they (along with Henry Paul and other players from further back) warranted inclusion to the national team. Given the difficulties involved with switching to a foreign sport I'd say that's an excellent return which rather than putting them off league players is more than likely to further cement their desirability.
I think you're underestimating England's desperation for success and the colossal reserves of money these guys have at their disposal. The former (in the wake of England's crushing exit from the RWC) is now reaching unheard of levels and they will think nothing of blowing the best part of half a million on two or three players who stand no more than a modest chance of making the grade.
We can't use past history as a guide on this occasion as there is no precedent for where the RFU is going. They are getting stronger (financed by any number of international revenue streams) whilst League is mired in one of the worst hit regions of the worst hit nations in depression.
Even worse, the NRL is now so awash with money it can afford not only to tempt the best of the best SL players but those on the tier below. The extra cash in their system means we're struggling now to attract their third tier stars.'"
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| Quote: DaveO "If I were your boss and you had signed a contract with me that said five years and you asked to leave after one year you would not be going anywhere. You could bleat all day about how much more you had been offered but it would be tough luck. I would not be doing this out of spite either but to send the message to all my players you can't just walk away as soon as a better offer comes along. I would see this as protecting my clubs interests and if you went into a sulk and refused to play I'd put you on gardening leave on principle. The fact you put your body on the line over the last few years would have nothing to do with it. You contracted to do that for another four years and so you should get on with it.
There is nothing unfair about any of that.
And yes contracts can be enforced as Spurs have done with one of their players.'"
Utterly ridiculous statement. As I have said on many occasions, how on earth are you going to force a player to play? Or will you be happy to pay a chunk of the CC as he sits in the stands?
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Yes I know it's Wikipedia and anyone can edit the profile, but this is a firstins is set to switch codes after agreeing a £400,000 a year deal at Saracens after a £325,000 release fee was agreed with Wigan Warriors'"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Tomkins
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Yes I know it's Wikipedia and anyone can edit the profile, but this is a firstins is set to switch codes after agreeing a £400,000 a year deal at Saracens after a £325,000 release fee was agreed with Wigan Warriors'"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Tomkins
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| Gonna be cracking day on here tomorrow. Glued to RLFans and Twitter for news from the shareholders meeting, and then from 2pm on wards it's press conference time. Anyone know whether SkySports News will be covering the press conference live?
You heard anything about all this, Rogues? Your someone who usually has their ear close to the ground for stuff like this.
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| Quote: Pemps "I was told that Sam is now driving an A5'"
You sure it wasn't "Down" the A5?
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Utterly ridiculous statement. As I have said on many occasions, how on earth are you going to force a player to play? Or will you be happy to pay a chunk of the CC as he sits in the stands?'"
We only need to look at the situation Man City are in with Tevez, a unhappy player in mid-contract.
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| Quote: MattyB "Yes I know it's Wikipedia and anyone can edit the profile, but this is a first:
If hes on 80k per year with 4 years left im sure it would be closer to 500k at least imo. Maybe we are sneakily reporting lower fee so we dont get ripped off when buying new players?
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Utterly ridiculous statement. As I have said on many occasions, how on earth are you going to force a player to play? Or will you be happy to pay a chunk of the CC as he sits in the stands?'"
Read my post again. You clearly didn't before you wrote the above.
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| Quote: MattyB "Yes I know it's Wikipedia and anyone can edit the profile, but this is a first:
325k is taking p"ss
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| Quote: wigan_knight "325k is taking p"ss'"
Id want at least double that.
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[b:1br14l5m][color=#800000:1br14l5m]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
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CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
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| Quote: wigan_knight "325k is taking p"ss'"
JT's reported salary of £80k x the 4 years contracted to Wigan.
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| Quote: MattyB "JT's reported salary of £80k x the 4 years contracted to Wigan.'"
Thats hardly compensation then is it?!
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