Isn't letting me quote the original but my 2 pence on the Makinson debate is that I think there's a real debate between him and Hall, and I wouldn't really have any problems with people putting Hall ahead of him. Great player. I'd have Makinson quite far ahead of Charnley though. There's more to being a winger than just scoring tries. Tommy has been huge for us in many aspects, including defence where he is immense and has also been incredibly important to our style of play with getting us on the front foot when returning the ball. Obviously he's a great finisher as well. His try scoring stats will be negatively impacted by our style of play over a lot of his career, plus years such as 2015-2017 where we just weren't very good.

Thank you for your input Stu. It is a pity that our ‘friend’ couldn’t post a reasoned argument.

Apparently the most incompetent/outright corrupt display of refereeing ever seen has taken place today at Salford

I thought that was last week?

What do we reckon regarding this post?

The Clown
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On a separate note I’d love to see someone decapitate Marshall the ing rat.

p.s. it didn’t really say ‘loving’.

Somebody on here said Saints fans didn’t post about Wigan on Redvee

absolutely unhinged.

and they seem convinced there's some plot involving the referees.

Paranoid scouse imbeciles

Try not to sit on the fence.

Interested to read what people’s thoughts are on the yellow card last night? It’s amazing how red cards are given for the likes of Makinson at Cas but only a yellow for an intentional head shot on Delaney.

I thought the ref was hopelessly out of his depth last night. How he missed the Simms shoulder charge is beyond me however that fired us up so it wasn’t all bad.

Welsby is getting back to his best and was class last night. Forwards were great too.

Zig- wondering what you think of Stephens? He’s certainly not looking out of place at this level.

Thought the yellow was the correct call personally. Yes, we've seen reds for much less but I'd say that's more of a problem of those red cards being dog calls rather than last night being a red. The ref was right that he did hit the back first and slide up. The shoulder charge was a shocker though, and should have been a yellow at the very least.

Personally, I can't stand soft red cards. I think the fact that people are calling for at least 1 red a game now has shown how far the sport has fallen. Red cards should be reserved for serious foul play and stuff that stands out, I don't think they're needed anywhere near as often as they're shown. They completely change and more often than not completely ruin a game and seeing as many reds as we've been seeing is just effecting too many results, skewing the league table etc. Look at that sending off we had against Salford. We were absolutely cruising that game, got a soft red and then they came back and won. Completely ruined the game. I'd rather we use the yellow more often as a deterrent rather than risking ruining the integrity of the league by dishing out a load of reds

Yeah I probably should’ve added that I’ve not seen it back on TV yet or heard what the ref said.

I still think he was way out of his depth though, he’s a long way behind his brother in controlling a game.

Just typed a message out but the site crashed on me
In summary:
Saints looked good better attacker plays but still not 100%
Stephen’s looked decent good breaks made by the lad
Makinson and Hurrell limping isn’t a good sign
Catalan will likely slip down the league if they can’t fix their fitness
Thought the yellow was fair enough think the ref explained it well when he called the two captains over. The other shot by simms should have been carded

Having just watched it back I think the yellow was correct to be fair.

Stu - this site won’t let me quote you again! I thought the lad played well last night, I maybe wrong and if I am I will hold my hand up, as always. For what it is worth, I think Catalans have gone backwards fast, they have no attacking threat. They had enough possession and territory to put Saints to the sword. Twelve months ago, with Tomkins et al in the team, it would have been a different result. I think the top four is now settled, only the pecking order to be sorted out.

Stu - by the way, which persona are you identifying by today?