Lomax pulling out is devastating for England. Unless he's picked up another injury in the GF I just don't understand this. He's played more than 5 months with the injury to get through a domestic season which happens every year. But for a World Cup in his own country which happens once or twice in a career he can't play. Was so important for the tournament for England to have a good WC but club before country mindsets remain.

Would we mind if it was a Wigan player though?

5 in a row the priority for Saints.

Lomax has had a gruelling season and he could risk prolonged injury following more games which could potentially effect his pre-season.

With Stains having the best squad in living memory surely missing Lomax for a couple of early months next season would not make that much difference.

Good to see you’ve moved on from our 4 in a row Jason. Calling us Stains as well, good effort.

On the Lomax withdrawal I can see it from both sides. He’s played all season with the injury so what’s an extra few games when this is likely to be his last WC and certainly the last one on home soil. Plus with the play off structure you can argue that we don’t even need him for the first few rounds anyway, doesn’t matter if we lost them all in the grand scheme of things.

However we all don’t know just how bad it is. For all we know he could be in real pain every week and his priority will be to prolong his club career as he probably only has 2-3 seasons left at best. It’s a short career as we all know and they don’t earn footballer wages.

Let’s face it too Saints will have a healthy contingent still so it’s not as though they are all resting. Welsby, Knowles, Makinson, Lees and Batchelor will all no doubt be selected. Walmsley too would’ve been. Percival has at least tried to play I believe but the latest scan has shown he’s had a setback and the specialist has said he can’t play.

Unfortunately at times thats hard work as you could probably attest to

i recall a game at Huddersfield when i spent best part of 80 mins arguing with Yorkshiremen complaining about Faz and Scully. Two of the finest players we have produced in recent years, and they werent fit to wear (poss GB shirt at the time) the shirt. There are some people just so short sighted its unreal, and you cant help get protective about your own club (or not) players at times

i've just posted something similar re Lomax on the Warriors fans board. I can see why he / the club has taken the decision. He has played on all season with injury, and has been / was probably advised he would need surgery to correct, and this may the the opportunity to get it fixed before next season.
On the flip side I could also understand if he wanted to play with it being a home world cup. But playing for England aint going to pay his bills if he makes the injury worse and career is over

in this instance i think its cos he plays for Saints that there is noise and he is going to be a miss in the England side

I'm sure if the injury could be made worse by playing (which I'm sure Saints said couldn't) then he shouldn't have carried on and risked his last 2/3 years of playing for 5months of rugby?
Can't take the player welfare moral high ground one way and not the other?
I'm not saying hes done the wrong thing, I'm just saying there's no need to try and put some moral justification to it when it is what it is.
Hes put his Saints career over his England one, and I'm fine with that
No right or wrong IMO

PS

STU M
you seem to be bothered about people using the Stains tag again
I haven't done too much perusing of Redvee but I'm sure when I have 10mins to spare and fancy a laugh I'll find loads of posts from yourself asking them not to use their, IMO, Far greater insults when using our name?

He's not made the squad anyway and neither has Smithies.

Happy for Wigan.

Looks like it'll be Tomkins-Williams-Sneyd - may be effective if we're lucky but it's a huge step up for Sneyd, Williams is out of form and Tomkins is unfit.

Most are saying Jack Welsby needs to play but if he does I think it needs to be at fullback. Welsby-Williams-Tomkins may be an option.

Welsby Williams Tomkins

Welsby has to play, 1 or 6 I'm not bothered

This is Tomkins last Hurrah, he doesn't have the legs to be in enough of the players from FB for me against the big teams in the big games.
That's why he may play 6

And he certainly eont play 6 games back to back.

Beat Samoa and we're topping the group so chance to make a few changes and rest Sam for the big games (pretty sure the QF will be an "easy" game if we top the group as well)

they'll put a cricket score on us

No kicking game or decent goal kicker but I agree it is what SW will probably go with and with Tomkins in the halves.

I only call you stains because some nobody keeps on call us Wigoon,is that ok.
Re-4 in a row as I have always stated from day one that whoever wins the GF is the best team that season your team are the best team this season,also is that ok.
If you take notice I usually reply to anyone calling my team for no reason unless it is a dislike of Wigan,also also is that ok.