How is winning the GF papering over cracks? that's exactly what you're meant to do! Win.

I can see why most fans are frustrated and yes, we did go on a winning run to the GF last year. Before that, after it was announced that Wane was leaving we couldn’t buy a good performance and many were screaming for him to go immediately and not see the season out. The squad hasn’t changed much but it did lose 2 of its most influential players in Tomkins and Bateman.
The season before we had a horrendous run of of injuries and finished outside the top 4. That was also under Waney.
I’ve said a few times, I’m just a bit more relaxed about things. With better luck we could be further up the ladder and we could we’ll go on another winning run.

The coaches, players, owners, media etc all say its only winning that matters, to them it does and to the fans it does but they also want to be entertained as this is the entertainment industry and people want to be entertained. Under Wane they weren’t.

We just tread water all season playing crap rugby just hovering around the top 6 then play well for a few matches and win the Grand Final. Doing this will ultimately kill the game, that’s why they’ve changed it this season. The 20 odd league games don’t count for anything and we’re meaningless, the fans were treated with contempt.

Under Wane it was akin to a father who works away a lot and never sees the wife and kids but comes home 1 week a year, showers then with gifts and says ‘What do you mean I’m a bad father and husband, I’ve just bought you all that stuff, other wife’s and kids would be grateful of it, you ungrateful lot’.

So for 90% of the time we were poor to watch, then ground out a couple of wins at the end of the season to keep Wane in a job when in reality a GF loss would have seen him sacked in 2016.

It’s alright bringing so many kids through but the vast majority have come through our Shaun Wane Wrestling Academy and are not athletic rugby league players . This is where a big part of the problem lies. Look at Saints youngsters coming through , strong athletic and skilful.

I like the look of Morgan Knowles and Matty Lees. I think that’s where the problem lies with us, Lam is allowing the players a free reign but they’re incapable of doing so because they only know how to wrestle.

Hope so, and yes it could happen. Just looking at current performances we seem to be a million miles off the end of 2018. On what we know from performances this season, would you honestly give Lam a long term job?

last season we finished 2nd in both the regular season and playoffs, then won the GF off the back of an unbeaten run. I really don't agree with your relation to father who works away, bit insensitive and unnecessary.
Last season, despite pitfalls and injuries it was another successful season under SW.

I think there’s two sides to this.

Firstly to answer your question, yes I’d like Lam to be given the job long term. At least 2 more years. We’ve seen some scintillating attack in glimpses (1st half against Cas for example) and we’ve seen that we can defend, keeping two teams tryless for example. What we need to see is both elements put together consistently. To do that, we’ll need some consistency in the 17. I’m not using the injuries as an excuse but I do consider it a mitigating factor.

Secondly and I think just as importantly, is would I want the job if I was Adrian Lam? The negativity towards him is huge and he must surely see and feel it. Furthermore, I’d be asking the chairman what resources were available to me and what caliber of player could I bring to the club?

Without resources I’d say any coach coming in is on a hiding to nothing.

Give Lam the job long term? Not a chance I hope I’m wrong but Ive seen nothing to think he’s the man to rebuild Wigan,other than he’s the man in charge at the moment.

I think the attack is actually gone down hill under Lam, at times Cas first half and v Cats we've moved the ball around well. But that's about it. In opposition the attack has looked amateur, very flat with players looking like they don't have a clue.
Sadly, so far, I've seen very little in terms of attack under Lam, which is most concerning as that's meant to be his area to improve the most.

I hope I'm wrong but I can only look at facts and not what might happen. So far we look a shell of what we once was.

You’re a chirpy one, aren’t you? As for relegation candidates we’re now on double the points of London and I don’t see them winning many more games this season.

As for Hardaker being incapable of a break. Last night wasn’t his best attacking performance though he was defensively very good again, but you must be forgetting his break for the winning try against Salford.

Absolutely no chance I’d want Lam either, he’s been dealt a bad hand with injuries but the lack of organisation on field says it all, we need someone with a little more experience.

I think Sammut is a huge difference. There were many signs of the attack Lam promised in the Catalan game then first twenty minutes of the Cas game until he got injured. Was pretty telling that everything fell apart when he went off.

He looks like a good organiser and brings the best out of George, also massively improved our kicking game. His impact, whilst brief has been severely underrated because of the preconception of a championship player.

Personally I wouldn’t say that’s down to Lam. Williams is simply not an organiser and I’ve not been too impressed with Shorrocks. There was a huge difference when Sammut was on controlling the play.