No argument from me with this mate, it was a painful afternoon. The question I’d ask though, is if SW was sacked on Monday, how will that improve us for the rest of the season? It probably wouldn’t and we’d end up with John Winder in temporary charge so culturally, nothing will change.

We need to move on and get over it and quick but what yesterday showed us is that SW leaving is good for the club. We need something new, fresh ideas. Players leaving at the same time can be a real positive because the incoming coach will have some money to spend on players than can help make the changes the new coach wants.

Let's be honest, there's no point in sacking a coach who is leaving in five months anyway, and for whom a replacement has not yet been found.. But I certainly expect someone to have a word and enquire what the plan is for the renainder of the season, because that's one of our main targets gone within two weeks of SW announcing his resignation. That wasn't just a loss yesterday, that was a serious blow to the club's ambitions and the fans' morale - and it was given up softly to a set of opponents we easily had the beating of only a fortnight ago.

We're supposed to be professionals, and however annoyed and/or upset people are, that can't be allowed to become the new narrative of 2018.

I believe that Winder does most of the coaching anyway so even if SW departs and Winder gets the job in the short term then I cant see any major changes in style of play.
I think what really upset me about yesterday was that it wasn't a shock, it was painful but it didn't surprise me.
For a supposedly fit team there was no energy from the first minute and for a team with supposed structures being the very heart of the style of rugby we play we had zero structure in attack.
Whoever gets the gig his first priority must be to sign someone who actually knows how to kick a rugby ball. His second priority must be to burn the wrestling pit.

Spot on. I had a bad feeling before the game and expected to get beat if I’m honest. However, I didn’t expect us to just bend over in front of them the way we did! Tyrone Roberts showed us how critical the role of a good scrum half can be, particularly with his kicking game. 3 occasions we had Farrell kicking!! What’s that all about?

The tactics were appalling, one man drives it in 5 times, then pass it left, left, left and left again and then put a crap kick in - repeat until final whistle. Under no circumstances pass it right.

Our last tackle options have been garbage for years and yesterday was the worst ever.

Passing the ball to players stood still / not expecting it.
Farrell's 3-4 awful punts to nothing.
Williams' two types of kick - scuffed grubber into defenders ankles or floated chip kick to opposition winger under no pressure.

Absolute dogmuck!

Madge is part-time as Head Coach for NZ, surely we could entice him for the rest of the season, he would certainly sort the discipline and lack of effort out, and would clear out the dead wood straight away!

The club needs to do what's best for the club. Wane is coming to the end of his reign, but ask yourself, would sacking Wane now cause more disruption and confusion to the set up? Possibly yes. Some players who are very pro Wane would be disgruntled, such major decisions should never be knee-jerk.

Spend the time wisely, find and appoint the best coach possible. Work with said coach behind the scenes in signing and building their Wigan. This is a lengthy process. Time needs to be taken to get it right to build the necessary foundations for years to come.

I think the club so need to get a move on and announce the next coach though that may settle everyone down a little but truth is for me I’m not a fan of “long goodbyes” if you’re going then go but that’s just me.

Id only sack Wane if the new guy is already agreed and free to come otherwise i dont see anybody within the club who could take over and do a better job. If theres any bright spot on the horizon its that Wane may get the players fired up for the end of year and barring a total disaster, we should be in the play offs and anything can happen then.

Sack Shaun Wane and Joel Tomkins first thing tomorrow.

Sam will follow by leaving the club.

Get Maguire back on a good short-term contract until the end of the season.

Then get a long-term well researched Head that will take us forward.

If we get a similar performance at Wakey on Thursday to the last two, I think Wane's position would become untenable.

In that scenario (and assuming any new coach isn't available yet) I would give O'Loughlin a go as player-coach for the rest of the season. It would be someone for the fans to rally behind and would also likely mean we have a coach in charge who would be respected by the players. A short-term solution only.

At the moment it feels like the season is very rapidly spiralling out of control and someone needs to say "enough!".

This season is already gone unless we dump wane and his cronies straight away.

You do realise there's only one side ahead of us in the league. Lets just give them the trophies then and not bother

Utter rubbish