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| According to the Express Harrison Hansen was disappointed to see Noble go.
Useful player but if it freed up enough cap space to bring in a bit of quality might be worth considering
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Fielden is not on 250k.'"
I've read the Salary cap rules a few times now and from every thing i can see they don't need to be able to pay his current salary at all.
From my reading of the rules the only stumbling block in getting rid of a player is whatever termination fee is agreed.
The termination fee counts on the salary cap of the selling club, usually on a pro-rata basis over the remaining term of the contract.
so lets say a player has 2 years left on his contract, and agrees a £50,000 termination fee, then £25,000 for the next 2 years still counts on the salary cap of the club terminating the contract.
I'll try and look further to see if there are any specific exclusions for 'transfers' but i'm sure a player could always have his contract just terminated if there are clauses in his contract to agree termination, and a suitable termination fee can be agreed between club and player.
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2553.gif I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "I've read the Salary cap rules a few times now and from every thing i can see they don't need to be able to pay his current salary at all.
From my reading of the rules the only stumbling block in getting rid of a player is whatever termination fee is agreed.
The termination fee counts on the salary cap of the selling club, usually on a pro-rata basis over the remaining term of the contract.
so lets say a player has 2 years left on his contract, and agrees a £50,000 termination fee, then £25,000 for the next 2 years still counts on the salary cap of the club terminating the contract.
I'll try and look further to see if there are any specific exclusions for 'transfers' but i'm sure a player could always have his contract just terminated if there are clauses in his contract to agree termination, and a suitable termination fee can be agreed between club and player.'"
surely the termination fee would be remaining wages tho as thats the contract that was originally signed? player could sue if didnt get that?
fwiw, my source says bailey is highest paid player at club.
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| Quote: pk "surely the termination fee would be remaining wages tho as thats the contract that was originally signed? player could sue if didnt get that?
fwiw, my source says bailey is highest paid player at club.'"
You would logically think so, but the rules exclude that specifically.
The termination fee is whatever has been mutually agreed between player and club, via an agreement form submitted to the RFL.
It does not need to be related to his actual salary.
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1883.jpg Didn't William Webb Ellis pick up the ball and run, someone should really tell Rugby Union.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Matt King is on just under 200k apparently. He his the highest payed player in the league.
Fieldens wage is probably split over afew years though, he might be on 250k this year who knows but the amount he is earning every year will not be 250k.'"
For the gazillionth time; Matt King is not the highest earner at Warrington, never mind SL. The highest earner at Warrington isn't earning close to £200k.
Odemwingie, your info is way off.
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "For the gazillionth time; Matt King is not the highest earner at Warrington, never mind SL. The highest earner at Warrington isn't earning close to £200k.
Odemwingie, your info is way off.'"
At the end of the day we'll never know the real facts of any players wages.
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a) His submitted salary cap value (Appendix 3 of section E1 Super League Salary Cap Regulations, RFL Operational Rules)
b) The amount he actually receives in payments - this can be more or less than a) and will quite often be, and be perfectly legitimate and within the rules
c) The total amount he actually gets over the term of his contract, now this should be the same as b) but depending on a clubs accounting prowess and willingness to take risks in the grey areas may not be
d) Any 'brown envelope' scenarios - of course this last point is completely hypothetical and there is no evidence that this is what any club is doing.
I'm am also in no way saying that Warrington or any other named club is doing C either.
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| Quote: pk "fwiw, my source says bailey is highest paid player at club.'"
Scary. I can't remember where I have posted this but I have heard the same thing.
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| Quote: cadoo "Scary. I can't remember where I have posted this but I have heard the same thing.'"
It could actually be a blessing if he had been, with his previous contract now having expired, freeing up some cap space.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "It could actually be a blessing if he had been, with his previous contract now having expired, freeing up some cap space.'"
In theory that is correct.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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| Quote: getdownmonkeyman "For the gazillionth time; Matt King is not the highest earner at Warrington, never mind SL. The highest earner at Warrington isn't earning close to £200k.
Odemwingie, your info is way off.'"
Just what I had heard man, calm down!
Knee Jerk or what!
Shock horror, what I have heard might be wrong
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| Quote: tivolipoo "According to the Express Harrison Hansen was disappointed to see Noble go.
Useful player but if it freed up enough cap space to bring in a bit of quality might be worth considering'"
His name came to my mind too. Only because he was the only player to speak publicly in Noble's defence after he went. But just because he liked the bloke doesn't mean he'll follow him down to Wales.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
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For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| You've got to realise that H was very young when Noble came to Wigan and noble eased him into the first team.
Hansen will probably feel a great deal of loyalty to Noble.
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| IMO, I can see him coming in for Karl Pryce and Carmont. I think he would like to put the pair on a wing. He might try to loan some of the ex reserve players, sending O' Carroll there for 12 months would be a good move IMO both for the player and us.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "You've got to realise that H was very young when Noble came to Wigan and noble eased him into the first team.
Hansen will probably feel a great deal of loyalty to Noble.'"
And I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all.
Just because he is sad to see Nobby leave doesn't mean that he is going to throw his dummy out the pram,rejectr the new coach and become a bad influence around the club as some people seem to be suggesting he will.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: cadoo "And I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all.
Just because he is sad to see Nobby leave doesn't mean that he is going to throw his dummy out the pram,rejectr the new coach and become a bad influence around the club as some people seem to be suggesting he will.'"
Sorry if that was how you took my post, it was never intended that way. I'm a big fan of Hansen and I don't think many appreciate how hard he works. I also believe he has a tremendous professional attitude, he certainly is no dummy spitter.
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