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| Quote jonh="jonh"No i have not seen every game just those on Setanta and the highlights and yes i am aware that you can watch the games on the Internet but sadly i do like to leave the house sometimes and spend time with my family.
The way i see it from the games i have seen and the fact he is the current Dally M which pretty much rewards consistent form its a bit rich to call his form patchy over the last 2 years.'"
You come out with comments like this then call me a child? Are you having a go or trying to put us down because we have seen Orford play more than you?
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| Quote Boris="Boris"So you have seen every match he has been in over the last two years?
With the internet, one does not Setanta to watch the NRL.'"
Oh no Boris! How can you possibly watch more games than Jonh! You need to put down for watching more of Matt Orford than Jonh! How dare you! 
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| Quote jonh="jonh"No i have not seen every game just those on Setanta and the highlights and yes i am aware that you can watch the games on the Internet but sadly i do like to leave the house sometimes and spend time with my family..'"
You can spend time with your family and watch the NRL. They are not mutually exclusive of one another. Very odd comment.
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The way i see it from the games i have seen and the fact he is the current Dally M which pretty much rewards consistent form its a bit rich to call his form patchy over the last 2 years.'"
But Last Son of Wigan has seen him play more than you. Ergo your opinion vis-a-vis the NRL is somewhat less relevant.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Neither is Sean Long.'"
What has sean Long to do with his comments about Orford?
You'll find his points for Sean Long are based on his extensive experience of Super League over Orford's.
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| The other big point in Sean Long's favour is the money he is going to demand. A player such as Orford or Lockyer will be taking a significant part of the salary cap. Long would be on a lot less money leaving space to get some much needed props in.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan":20lzuwi5Lets look at the fact then of both players. (REGARDLESS ITS MY OPINION AND BY NO MEANS SHOULD I HAVE TO JUSTIFY THEM TO YOU)
Orford-SL experience none. Not used to the weather conditions, not just rain you pedantic lover, Is this a fact, yes, how many Aussies have you seen come over here and not turn up until the sun comes out? Lots.'"
Once again look back over the Setanta listings count them up and you will have a figure.
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| Quote Boris="Boris"You can spend time with your family and watch the NRL. They are not mutually exclusive of one another. Very odd comment.
But Last Son of Wigan has seen him play more than you. Ergo your opinion vis-a-vis the NRL is somewhat less relevant.'"
I do not have time to sit and watch more rugby than i already do, my lifestyle will not allow for it, and in truth nor would i want to.
So if a 7 year old (not that i am suggesting you are Last Son) watches every game of the NRL his opinion suddenly becomes more valid than Wayne Bennetts (not that i am suggesting i am!!). Its simply not that simple.
All i am saying is it is questionable how 2 experts and avid watchers of every NRL game can call the Dally M winners form patchy? It does make me wonder just how closely you watch the games or exactly what you look for from a player.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Lets look at the fact then of both players. (REGARDLESS ITS MY OPINION AND BY NO MEANS SHOULD I HAVE TO JUSTIFY THEM TO YOU)
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This is painful. The bloke has never stated you have no right to an opinion. He is simply having a discussion, which isn't all that strange on a discussion forum.
You're the one who starting spitting the dummy out for someone having a different view, get over yourself.
In my opinion, Long for a number of reasons would be a poor option for Wigan. Orford is not the absolutely ideal solution but for me is the best option available to us at this point.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I do not have time to sit and watch more rugby than i already do, my lifestyle will not allow for it, and in truth nor would i want to.
So if a 7 year old (not that i am suggesting you are Last Son) watches every game of the NRL his opinion suddenly becomes more valid than Wayne Bennetts (not that i am suggesting i am!!). Its simply not that simple.
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Wow. Your ego is running away with you here. Likening yourself to Wayne Bennett  (I noticed you put the disclaimers in but this does not take away from your intention).
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All i am saying is it is questionable how 2 experts and avid watchers of every NRL game can call the Dally M winners form patchy?'"
Orford this season has been patchy if not God awful in some games. He has a tendency to come in and out of games.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"This is painful. The bloke has never stated you have no right to an opinion. He is simply having a discussion, which isn't all that strange on a discussion forum.
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Whilst comparing himself to Wayne Bennett, labelling LSOW as a 7 year old and inferring those that watch the NRL on the internet need to 'spend time with their families'.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"
Orford is not the absolutely ideal solution but for me is the best option available to us at this point.'"
Why commit a large portion of the salary cap to a player who is 'not the absolutely ideal solution'?
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| Quote Boris="Boris"Why commit a large portion of the salary cap to a player who is 'not the absolutely ideal solution'?'"
Is there such a thing as an 'absolutely ideal solution'?
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