Heard this morning that Smith accepted £60k a year less than what Widnes offered him (£140K was Widnes' offer)

Why ask Ryan Atkins who is the best centre in the league is

Ryan is the best centre in super league ask Carmont the same question

Both players are exceptional but on current form this season and last season its
Atkins

The same Ryan Atkins who was woeful defensively for England? Atkins is big and fast and in a league where 80% of defences are garbage that's all that's needed and indeed it's more than enough to look brilliant. Take into account the attributes and understanding that centres need when facing tougher defences and Carmont wins hands down.

ask a wire fan whos the best there going to say atkins ask a wigan fan they will say carmont, but i think carmont is a better overall but atkins is better attacking

Yes we are - not in the centres though sadly.



Yes, well - I clearly "fully understand the difference between good rugby players and bad ones" a darned sight better than the likes of you matey...

****buzzz**** Wrong answer.... 2+2<>5... I've been to Franklins Gardens once ever. Try again.

Anyway, RL is still a much better spectacle than RU but the gap is getting rapidly narrower, but that's another issue...

Very fair - I'd certainly have either of them in a Saints shirt at the moment very gladly. Neither of them still would have made a Wigan, Saints or Bradford starting 17 10-15 years ago though...

He's so much classier than Scott Naylor and he'd be in our team above most of the centres who played in our 2002 season.

Personally i don't think many of Wigan's current team would get in the dominant team of the late 80's, Tomkins probably but no one else, O'Loughlin is a cracking player but Hanley is the greatest 13 to play the game.

The thing is though if this team could travel back in time and play that team i actually think the current team would win, they're better drilled, probably fitter too.

Wigan now are a well drilled side and i think their organisation and fitness would beat the team of the 80's even though individually that team wins unanimously.
Saying that i also think given a years training with all the modern facilities and diets they'd rip SL apart.

I think the modern standard of player in SL is a lot higher than pre SL but only due to better facilities and all the technology but individually the players way back when are far better and i'd love to see that individual brilliance brought up to modern day standards.

You MUST be on a windup with that comment