I've already given a list - it should be pretty obvious that if I go into detail it would identify the person involved in the Edwards situation which I'm clearly not going to do. They had absolutely no reason to tell me what they did ( I didn't know they were involved first hand until they told me), but it doesn't show the cub in a very good light, and events since continue that trend.

Without trawling through all the posts again, I dont think you have provided a "list".
I still say, based on what Rads said, it would be very easy to point out which bit or bits he said was a lie.(Bearing in mind I have nonidea what your mystery man told you IL/Rads said?).

TBH the whole Edwards thing lasted less then 2 mins, Rads had 90secs max were he didn't back IL against anything to do with contracts, the process etc etc.,

He only refuted/disagreed with 2 statements that Edwards made at the time or shortly after the event and he explained why.
Neither of which are mind blowing, they're both a he said/she said situation and IMO hardly worth worrying about.
It would be easy to say henlied about x, and based on what he said I'm not sure how it would get anyone in any trouble but hey ho.
Interestingly enough my best mate is a mate of Edwards and he told me about a month ago what Edwards told him. It is what it is.

IMO I don't think IL/Rads told the whole truth on a couple of points last night because "I Know" certain things. I do however understand that there may be reasons for that, contractual, legal etc. And probably more importantly because we still have to deal with people involved in those situations. And from my point of view I'm not that desperate to come on a forum and call them out, prove them wrong etc because I understand that a/ i may not be right b/complex situations aren't usually black and white, right and wrong and opinions/context etc play big parts.

I also wouldn't want to betray confidences etc.
But I won't come on here and call them Liars etc though, I just accept that there will always be an element of grey about situations.

There weren't any grey areas in terms of Edwards - it was black and white, hence why I called them out. The club said they would do something during the forum in terms of communication - they didn't, again black and white.

"my mate told me something but i'm not going to tell you what he told me or who he is, but he told me"

Aaaaah. That old chestnut.

I still think it's ridiculous that there has been a blackout around the fans forum. I'm getting a bit sick of cryptic posts. Either share what you know or don't say anything at all. There will be plenty of frustrated people who would have liked to have gone and got answers but couldn't because of other commitments, including myself. However, the club stated there would be live updates on Twitter, which did not materialise, and now there are still no updates two days later. I find all the cloak and dagger secrecy VERY weird!! It's all well and good people posting on Twitter that they're happy and it was open and transparent, but it's clearly not is it. What about the hundreds/thousands of fans who are regularly investing time and money into the club, yet still being kept in the dark? I feel personally that season ticket holders are treated with contempt and have been some time, as we are merely seen as 'guaranteed income' and i'm getting sick of it. I've felt disillusioned for some time now and the only reason i've renewed over the past couple of seasons is to keep my season ticket seat, however with it currently being in the 'red zone' and those being the only seats that are unavailable, i'm becoming increasingly less likely to renew next season.

I have to say it's a unique way of communicating with fans - say you're doing a fans forum at short notice, confirm the (unpopular?) coach is leaving a few hour before, limit it to 120 people, say you'll provide updates and then don't, ask the 120 to "keep our little secrets" and two days later have no official confirmation of ANY information that was said and given out.

its caused more questions than answers, kind of counter productive

They don't help themselves sometimes do they.

You didn't really call them out though did you?
Your mate on the night didn't either?

You've just called them liars and then won't tell anyone why whilst insinuatiing that EVERYTHIG they told us with lies, coupled with petty name calling of thise that went.

I've called them out on here.

The person at the forum doesn't know the detailed info I have about the Edwards situation.

I've already said the info they gave out about Edwards is incorrect.

What annoys me is as someone has pointed out, some Twitter users have said it was very “open and transparent”. We’ll that’s very good for them but what about those whose life got in the way? It’s beyond ridiculous that 2 days later there’s still a club silence. What was said probably wasn’t been groundbreaking stuff but that’s beside the point. The whole mantra of “we’ll try to communicate better” is a complete joke.

I dont really care about Edwards, Burgess, Williams. All done now and consigned to history. We cant change what happened.

What i do care about is the sustainability of the club going forward and in particular the relationship with the owners of the DW stadium.

Why is it that 120 supporters get to know bits about this yet the rest of us are not deemed worthy of what the future holds in terms of how much of our hard earned cash is going to go indirectly to the Latics so they can pay £10k a week for dud players?

Over to those "ITK"....

I'll call your mate out on here
I've no idea what he's said, as you won't tell us, but I'm going to call him out as a liar

(Reality is i dont really care, but I'm you know, ill play your little game).

Negotiations are still ongoing with Wigan Ath

I have had a profile on this site for a while and this is the first time I've posted anything for years. I completely agree with the above sentiment in full as it pretty much sums up my position at the moment. A season ticket holder for 25 years and this is the first time I've contemplated not renewing. I feel that I'm just falling out of love with Wigan and am also disillusioned with what has and hasn't happened over the last few years. The way loyal fans are being treated over the forum issue is poor at best but that isn't the single reason though it has brought things to a head for me.