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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "I’m not suggesting anything mate. I’m telling you that IL & Rads have done everything we would have wanted but they’ve been badly let down by SE. I can’t go into details but as I’ve said above, I really hope the club does a warts n all explanation of what’s gone on. The way IL & Rads have conducted themselves has really made me proud to be a Wigan fan and I’m gutted I ever doubted them.'"
Fully understand and agree that you shouldn't give more details however, (there is always an however ) I am really struggling to understand why any businessman in any industry wouldn't insist on a signed contract. If SE has used us to catch a bigger fish then we have as much skin in the game as SE because a signed contract is a pretty fundamental requirement. If we have been shat on we have allowed SE to shoite on us unless of course a contract was actually signed and SE has used some form of legal loophole to void the contract.
I'm sure that the facts will come out but still think that we look a "bit soft" as a club and at the moment personally I am more concerned about the here on now rather than the 19/20 season. Hopefully your source may have also advised on some new blood in the playing arena as at the moment we look and play like a team is very capable of being relegated.
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| Hang on. So now the word of an unnamed source says that the club have done everything right and have been screwed over?
So they announced he had signed a 3 year contract? Edwards says he was refused a contract and has not signed anything. Somebody is lying.
Right, either Edwards did sign a contract and has just made himself look like a complete idiot, liar, untrustworthy and destroyed his reputation with Wigan and the whole of RL or the club said he had signed a 3 year contract when he had not.
My sources which told me way back when that Edwards would not come alleged that it was all a big show (similar to Wendell Sailor) and that the hope was that Lam did so well that they would keep him on full time and nobody would care about Edwards not coming because the team was playing so well under Lam. Im not saying this is true, just what i was told by the person who first told me that Edwards would not come
Who knows what the truth is. Ive never actually seen anything like it to be honest.
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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "Things have changed my view.
I had a conversation this morning with a chap who is high up in the echelons of the club’s management. (I’ll not disclose who so don’t even ask).
What I will say is that Edwards has shat on the club from a great height and the club has acted entirely properly all the way through. There is absolutely no wrong doing by Rads, IL or anybody but Edwards and he will never have my respect again. My view of him has been completely ruined by his inexcusable actions.
When it all comes out and I hope the club gives the full details, believe me it’s astonishing.
I actually applaud the club for their extreme professionalism and for maintaining such a dignified approach which has restored my faith in them.'"
Did your contact confirm if Edwards actually signed a three year contract as the club said? If not, why did the club lie to the fans?
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "Hang on. So now the word of an unnamed source says that the club have done everything right and have been screwed over?
So they announced he had signed a 3 year contract? Edwards says he was refused a contract and has not signed anything. Somebody is lying.
Right, either Edwards did sign a contract and has just made himself look like a complete idiot, liar, untrustworthy and destroyed his reputation with Wigan and the whole of RL or the club said he had signed a 3 year contract when he had not.
My sources which told me way back when that Edwards would not come alleged that it was all a big show (similar to Wendell Sailor) and that the hope was that Lam did so well that they would keep him on full time and nobody would care about Edwards not coming because the team was playing so well under Lam. Im not saying this is true, just what i was told by the person who first told me that Edwards would not come
Who knows what the truth is. Ive never actually seen anything like it to be honest.'"
But you're quoting an unnamed source as well.
If Edwards gets an England job, I think we'll all know who was putting on the show and why.
However, that won't mean the club haven't made errors.
But unless the club put out their side of the story, we'll never know ... it will all be supposition.
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| Quote: Cruncher "But you're quoting an unnamed source as well.
If Edwards gets an England job, I think we'll all know who was putting on the show and why.
However, that won't mean the club haven't made errors.
But unless the club put out their side of the story, we'll never know ... it will all be supposition.'"
Thats all im saying. I dont want to get in trouble.
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| Quick question.
If the club are clean in all of this then when Edwards first went to the media in January and floated the idea that he may not come if Lam does well, why did Mr Lenegan come out a few days later and repeat the same thing and also say that there may be a situation in that Edwards will not come? Surely if the club really thought the Edwards deal was nailed on they would of come out and completely quashed any idea that Edwards may not come? This to me tells me that it is impossible that Edwards signed a contract and he must be telling the truth about that part at the very least.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Did your contact confirm if Edwards actually signed a three year contract as the club said? If not, why did the club lie to the fans?'"
This is going to be the top and bottom of it all. If he has and he’s not going to honour it then the club has done nothing wrong and may get a pay out from his new employer. If he didn’t then they have lied pure and simple, regardless of the fact that Edwards may not be honouring a gentleman’s agreement.
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| And the plot thickens as the incoming Wales RU coach pitches in...
rlhttps://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-league/wigan-warriors/disappointed-new-wales-coach-denies-shaun-edwards-comments-as-saga-with-wigan-warriors-rumbles-on-1-9659625rl
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "Thats all im saying. I dont want to get in trouble.'"
I'm, sure you're being honest about that, but don't be surprised if people don't take it at face value ... much the way you aren't taking what the other chap had to say at face value.
It's also possible that your source is being less than honest with you, especially if, as I suspect, he's in the Edwards camp.
The best thing to do before calling down fire and brimstone on IL is wait to hear his explanation for all this. We accord that privilege to people accused of murder, so perhaps it's the least we can do here.
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| Re Wayne Pivac, new head coach of Wales RU (courtesy of Wigan Today)Pivac, though, insists Edwards was in his plans. “Shaun was the first person I spoke with," he said. "He indicated early on he was under pressure from Wigan and that the timeline that was imposed on us were unrealistic. “I talked around a process we would be going through. That was pre-autumn and pre-Six Nations. Shaun signed with Wigan and that put paid to the discussions going any further."[/i
Hmmm ...
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| Quote: The_Enforcer "Hang on. So now the word of an unnamed source says that the club have done everything right and have been screwed over?
So they announced he had signed a 3 year contract? Edwards says he was refused a contract and has not signed anything. Somebody is lying.
Right, either Edwards did sign a contract and has just made himself look like a complete idiot, liar, untrustworthy and destroyed his reputation with Wigan and the whole of RL or the club said he had signed a 3 year contract when he had not.
My sources which told me way back when that Edwards would not come alleged that it was all a big show (similar to Wendell Sailor) and that the hope was that Lam did so well that they would keep him on full time and nobody would care about Edwards not coming because the team was playing so well under Lam. Im not saying this is true, just what i was told by the person who first told me that Edwards would not come
Who knows what the truth is. Ive never actually seen anything like it to be honest.'"
Pivac also now saying Edwards did sign with Wigan and his equally confused by his comments. You may be right but we now have an unnamed source and reputable named source who think to the contrary. I think Edwards is being found out and we should do away with him sooner rather than later.
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Pivac on Edwards remarks.
Shaun was the first person I spoke with," he said. "He indicated early on he was under pressure from Wigan and that the timeline that was imposed on us were unrealistic. “I talked around a process we would be going through. That was pre-autumn and pre-Six Nations. Shaun signed with Wigan and that put paid to the discussions going any further.
Read more at: https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9659625
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Pivac on Edwards remarks.
Shaun was the first person I spoke with," he said. "He indicated early on he was under pressure from Wigan and that the timeline that was imposed on us were unrealistic. “I talked around a process we would be going through. That was pre-autumn and pre-Six Nations. Shaun signed with Wigan and that put paid to the discussions going any further.
Read more at: https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby- ... -1-9659625
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| Turning into a right soap opera, here's hoping the team can put it to one side and concentrate on on field matters.
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| Quote: apollosghost "Turning into a right soap opera, here's hoping the team can put it to one side and concentrate on on field matters.'"
I’ll drink to that!!
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| if we're in the blame game (and it looks like we are ), then I still can't see any scenario in which both parties aren't to blame to some extent.
It seems virtually certain now that there is no written contract. Otherwise surely IL would have produced it yesterday. However you slice it, that doesn't look good from the club's POV. Even if Edwards had said, let's not worry about a contract now, we'll sort it later, then the club look at best naive.
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