Which was my point.

The idea we'd send him on loan because he and Wane have fallen out is bizarre. It's supposedly so if Wane leaves at the end of the season Hock can come back under a new coach. Really?

Given the rumour I heard was Hock fell out with IL over a bonus payment (which is why he was supposedly being sold to Parra) that would mean IL was going out of his way to accommodate a player he wanted to sell.

It's all getting silly and the "no comment" from the club and Wane just fuels the speculation. It's all over the press as well.

So if Wigan want rid for whatever reason they should just stick him on the transfer list.

If no club meets the valuation Wigan put on him and Wigan won't sell for less then that's the end of any move anywhere and all parties need to be told to get on and do their jobs.

Who was the last player "put on the transfer list" with a stipulated fee?

Isn't the fact the IL wouldn't let Hock go to Australia effectively saying that he is available if the right transfer fee is paid?

Could some kind person please pm me with the alleged story please?.

If it is not any of the ones listed then i am at a loss to figure it out.

www.loverugbyleague.com/news_107 ... -hock.html A fall out with sahun wane according to this. He is either on the transfer list or not. Mr Chairman, the fans deserve to know, is Mr Hock on the transfer list and if so who are we signing as his replacement

www.loverugbyleague.com/news_107 ... -hock.html A fall out with sahun wane according to this. He is either on the transfer list or not. Mr Chairman, the fans deserve to know, is Mr Hock on the transfer list and if so who are we signing as his replacement

Our great club is slowly falling apart. Its such a shame

I wasn't suggesting that should be done. I was suggesting he be put on the transfer list i.e. make him available if the club no longer wants him as a player. If the offers that would undoubtedly come in didn't match what Wigan wanted then that should be the end of the matter and everyone should get on with it. Hock in the team (and accepting that is the way things are), Wane coaching him and IL letting them do that.



And if it isn't? Do the club want him here or not is what I'd like to know. What are they going to do if they don't and can't get how mich cash they want in a transfer fee? Send him on loan for the rest of his contract?

PM for me too please!

Nonsense. The club seem to be trying to act with some discretion in the face of Hock's intransigence and clear ingratitude to all that Wigan and IL have done for him given his past sins. The club is unlikely to 'wash its hands' of him as that may weaken the negotiating position for a transfer fee.

I'm beginning to wonder how many posters on this board check under the bed for bogey men before sleep....

TBH, it's a fairly standard mental leap for some Wigan fans.

Known data - we don't know what's happening with Gareth Hock.
Conclusion - the club is falling apart.

Well no the club is not falling apart but its pretty obvious [isomething[/i is happening with Hock and the clubs usual way of dealing with it results in what it always does, rumour and speculation.

Rumour and speculation is the lifeblood of Wigan RL fandom, and always has been. Some of it exciting, some of it depressing. But comments like "the club is falling apart" are utter tripe, unjustified by anything that has either been said or not said in the last few weeks.

Indeed. Can you imagine if the club responded to all rumour and speculation - it would be a full-time job in itself.

There's absolutely nothing for the club to say at the moment. Hock is a Wigan player, just like the rest of the squad, if that changes there'll be an official statement. I know some people would love the club to deal with transfer and personnel issues in public, unfortunately for them the real world doesn't work like that.

I nearly fell over I laughed so Hard at this!

God help some if they had to go into a season with this squad!
Player
Starts Subs Total Tries Goals Drops
Steve O'Neill 34 - 34 2 - 1
Les Bolton 33 1 34 4 - 1
Jimmy Hornby 29 - 29 11 1 -
Bill Melling 29 - 29 5 - 1
George Fairbairn 27 - 27 4 77 6
John Clough 17 8 25 1 - -
Steve Breheny 24 - 24 2 - -
Martin Foy 22 2 24 7 - -
Danny Campbell 21 3 24 2 - -
Dennis Ramsdale 23 - 23 3 - -
Trevor Stockley 18 2 20 9 1 -
Terry Hollingsworth 15 3 18 2 - -
Dennis Boyd 17 - 17 - - -
Nicky Kiss 14 2 16 1 - -
Keiron O'Loughlin 16 - 16 4 - -
Ness Flowers 12 1 13 4 - -
Alan Greenall 8 5 13 1 - -
John Butler 11 1 12 3 - -
Tony Karalius 9 3 12 - 4 -
Malcolm Smith 9 2 11 4 - -
Mick Nanyn 7 4 11 1 - -
Dave Regan 7 3 10 2 - -
Bernard Coyle 6 4 10 - - -
Barry Williams 5 1 6 2 - -
Mike Rennox 4 2 6 - - -
Martin Sivori 5 - 5 1 - -
David Walsh 4 1 5 - 1 -
Steve Davies 4 - 4 - - -
Ray Farnworth 4 - 4 - 8 -
Green Vigo 4 - 4 - - -
John Pendlebury 2 - 2 1 - -
John Wood 1 1 2 - - -
Anthony Karalius 1 - 1 - - -
Geoff Norris - 1 1 - - -


Thank God there were no Message Boards then!