Nope.


The RFL takes gate receipts from playoffs but not food and beverage sales, which Saints would keep.


There is no reason not to. The chances of us having a frozen pitch in March is remote. But we would only be in the running for a WCC match if the GF holders were on this side of the Pennines.


No rumour. St Helens Town are playing their matches at the stadium. Saints secured Sport England funding as a result of that. In addition, the Council are running a youth facility at the stadium which (a) will generate income from the rent of the room and (b) refreshments will also generate income. There are already bookings for Christmas parties at the new stadium and the function room (separate from the room the Council will be using) is available for parties, weddings, conferences, exhibitions, you name it. There are also the boxes, which have now all been sold, and even the boardroom is up for rent. Plus, the shop is going to be based at the stadium and there is a sports bar there which is going to be open daily. The idea is for the stadium to be used 24/7.

Concourse is much better than at Old Trafford.

I like the Pie Dome, I quite like the Halliwell Jones too. Fans make the atmosphere not the ground, and whilst some grounds keep noise in and some let it out, I've been to games with great atmospheres at both grounds.

It's much use as an asset though is it? You can't realise the asset without selling the ground which kind of defeats the object.

You could use it as security for a mortgage or loan but why a club would want to raise the large sums of money that would require the bank to be demanding such security I am not sure.

The land belongs to the Council they are the landlords .

Think about the longevity aspect. In X amount of years time, Warrington/whoever need to move on, they can sell the land to fund further development.

Secondly, as you quite rightly point out, it provides security for borrowing for whatever reason. Better to have the facility than not. As for jaws1, I assume they are not referring to Warrington

content.yudu.com/Library/A1u54o/ ... chure-2012 if any of you are interested in organising an event at the new stadium

content.yudu.com/Library/A1u54o/ ... chure-2012 if any of you are interested in organising an event at the new stadium

The council own the land for Saints ground?

Nope.

Some people seem very determined to get the Council involved in this. They can't seem to accept that Saints own the stadium. The land is leasehold, 999 year lease, but that's nothing unusual in a commercial context. The land is owned by the developer, Langtree.

But Saints don't own the ground, and as such the land isn't an asset as they can't sell it if they wanted to?

In the same way that I'd your house is leasehold you don't own the land but you do own and can sell the property is on the land

Saints own the stadium, yes, but not the land it is built on, no, although of course they could buy out the freehold at a later date. But that's common practice in both the commercial and residential sectors. Saints are free to sell the stadium just as my parents are free to sell their house even though the land belongs to someone else.

6,790 for your last home game, all these figures about your new stadium and capacity are a little brave???????????

remember it's called the dw stadium not the IL stadium. even if wigan ath are relegated, they will still be in the fourth richest league in world football........a lot higher revenues than super league generate lads!!!! and better stadiums and still higher fan bases than ANY super league clubs.

be careful what you wish for

That's a little ironic given the turnout of Wigan fans for their playoff against the Dragons. But never mind. Short memories and all that.

Saints had an average of 11,000 at Knowsley Road for a few years prior to its demolition and so we can expect at least that at our new stadium. Since the capacity of our new stadium is only around 500 more than at Knowsley Road, I can't see capacity being an issue.