Chris Kamara was one if the best pundits I've seen in the studio for a long time, which says it all about the usual lot they get in.

Have some of you ever considered that Eddie and Stevo created interest with their comments and their way of commentating?

I used to think the same about them, especially where Wigan was concerned until they retired and then realised how much they have been missed!

I've watched a few old games back and it's is remarkable how poor Wiggy and Stevo were looking back.

Davies is worse than both of them though.

Kyle Amor is quite good when he is on The Superleague show.

nobody want any female pundits, apart from Jenna pitchside?
I personally don't think they add much, I know it is the same sport but the differences outweigh the similarities.

They should get James Graham on board if he returns home. He comes across well when he does TV work in Aus.

Other than Angela Powers who else is there? I know there’s Tanya Arnold but I think she’s far more suited to the studio recorded setting of The Super League Show rather than a live setting at a game. The Clare Balding ship has sailed away and although I liked her for the Challenge Cup games on BBC but I’m not convinced she’d be a right fit for SL, and that’s even before you ask whether she would consider it. She’d be good as a guest summariser though.

I liked Clare Balding too, but I agree that ship has probably sailed.

They are both better than Brian”2 - 2 = 100” and phil “Wigan are losing by 80 but have been the better team”
No wonder RL is a joke with them thick idiots at the helm

Would that be the same Brian that has a legal degree?

Hope so as it was evident that at the time she was involved, her knowledge of our game was from what she was fed by a BBC Researcher.

For me it weren’t her knowledge per se, it was her presenting style that won people over. Mark Chapman for example now, I don’t think he has a history with the game at all but his knowledge and presenting style are brilliant and for me for exceed those on Sky. I don’t particularly feel the lead presenter must have a deep knowledge of the game as an expectation.

I agree with the OP about Eddie and Stevo. I haven't really watched that many classic games but when I have it's reminded me just how bad their commentary was. They were basically a caricature. Their commentary was reminiscent of the awful commentary you'd get in video games. Basically, just a collection of repeated phrases and cliches, with a glitch every so often where the words would bear no resemblance to what was taking place in front of your eyes.

Despite their flaws, Eddie and Stevo did have some personality (even if it was incredibly grating after several decades). That's something that the commentators who have followed seem unable to present. It does make a difference too. The best RL commentator I've heard is definitely Andrew Voss. He brings some personality to his commentary, and while I'm sure that's a turn off for some, he also backs it up with some very astute and knowledgeable commentary.

Of the RL commentators around at the moment Dave Woods is probably the best. What I like about Dave Woods is that he doesn't try to dominate. When he was commentating on the early stages of the Challenge Cup with Jamie Jones-Buchanan they worked together really well. He would defer to JJB's knowledge, would ask questions rather than make assumptions. He commentates, and has an analyst or two alongside him and he sticks to that role well. At times there was an arrogance from the old Sky team, but particularly Stevo, where he seemed to assume he knew everything; every correct or incorrect player decision, every referee decision, what every player was trying to do, what the rules should or shouldn't be.

The best thing about the Sky team is Brian Carney. Not only does he work well as a presenter, he's a knowledgeable analyst but really shines when he has to confront ignorance (or to give him his full name, Phil Clarke). Jon Wells is good but not the most interesting person to listen to. Barrie and Terry are a bit tedious but Phil Clarke is the worst. Nothing wrong with someone having a contrary view but Clarke seems to do it for no reason.

Watching back all the old games and I just miss Ray French.