The past is there on record... You need to be concerned about the future.

You forgot to add "least humble" to the list!

Looks like someone's had a successful outing with the rods, several lines out and bites on every one

Some fair points made, in my view. Wigan needs its own stadium, certainly. On the demise of RL, when union first went (officially) professional, all the pundits were up on their hind legs predicting the imminent demise of league and its absorption into RU. It didn't happen then and it's not about to happen now.

Correct. There is plenty of life in the old game yet. Crowds may be down but IIRC they are still better than 15/20 years ago.

Walk through the streets of Bath (just a few miles up the road from me), and yes, you see plenty of people wearing Bath Rugby jerseys. But they're mostly overweight middle-aged men. You don't see teenage girls wearing them like you do in Wigan. People down here don't live and breath union in anything like the same way that communities in the North have embraced league. In other words, I think the foundations of the game in terms of core support are strong.

Nobody, as soon as union comes on in my local club they switch it over to golf that's how bad union is.

I do but don't let that stop you making sweeping statements.

Lovely how people will blast RU then sit and watch Wakefield vs Leigh

OK if you say so.

Give me a 6 -4 or 12-6 big defence game any day of the week. High scoring or turnstile defences type games are great in theory but imo you can't beat a hard-fought low scoring game.

Not really. I'd expect Wakey/Leigh to be a better watch than the vast majority of RU games.

We'll have to agree to differ on what constitutes entertainment. In my humble opinion even the worst game of League has more entertainment than the best of Union. I did used to play Union at school so I'm not completely against it. But I would rather watch almost any other sport. Easier to play but harder to watch!

1 round later and Bradford hammer Salford 41-10, Leigh v Wakefield comes down to a drop goal finish with Leigh having been 16-6 up. Quality and fitness just fine from the Championship sides!

Leigh were very unlucky Imo they should have took the draw n went for drop goal in last few minutes when was near wakens line.

Also should have looked to single out Chris Rileys wing, they broke line down his aide quite easily but didn't recognise it as their best chance of scoring.