Now the drugs don't work,
They just make you worse,
But I'm sure you'll post on here again.

I agree. It's not like McGuire didn't know where the players head was. He just saw an opportunity to put in a bit of a cheap shot, did it and got caught out. It's naive to think he just got an ordinary tackle wrong. He swung his arm and had every opportunity not to smack the player in the head. It's not the worst attempt in the world, but if the disciplinary are consistent he'll be looking at 2 matches given that he's already been suspended once this year. Leeds fans may think he's whiter than white but if you swing an arm directly at someone's head you deserve a ban.

I'm not talking about on the pitch, though that is an issue, it's the constant reinforcement of the perception of victimisation in the background.

Here's an idea form the left field. He was swinging at the ball. I have seen it before in the tackle.

But he missed and caught Louis Anderson square on the jaw, hence the charge of a reckless High tackle. simple really

Massive kick off on the Leeds forum as expected, majority of posters slagging Wane off for commenting that McGuire should expect a ban. Quite a difference compared to what most thoughts on here were prior to the Micky Mac judgement (majority of Wiganers expected he deserved at least 1-2 games). viewtopic.php?f=28&t=536584&tsmp=1348580926

Massive kick off on the Leeds forum as expected, majority of posters slagging Wane off for commenting that McGuire should expect a ban. Quite a difference compared to what most thoughts on here were prior to the Micky Mac judgement (majority of Wiganers expected he deserved at least 1-2 games). viewtopic.php?f=28&t=536584&tsmp=1348580926

He is becoming the Doug Laughton of the super league era but currently living of Michael Maguires work. He is obviously under pressure to bring a trophy.
it's embarrassing for your club, it's play ground stuff

It's on youtube now for those who missed it and it looks deliberate to me. He certainly hits Anderson harder than Micky Mac hit Laffranchi.

'Rugby League Big Hits: 2012 Play Offs' about 30 seconds in.

2 games for mine.

I don't really feel that he would be swinging his arm at the ball because there was already one Leeds player in the tackle so had he dislodged it, it would have been a penalty.
However, I can't understand why he tried to take his head off...just a rush of blood.
The sky commentator had aked Brian macdermot for comments at half time and he said that he wanted them fired up, dominating the opposition (or words to that effect). Maybe McGuire was too fired up.
Why would McIlorum smash the Saints' player? He was always going to get caught out, if not immediately, later. He was too fired up. He is always fired up but McGuire was fired up because it was such an important game.

It doesn't matter to Wigan whether he gets one match or two. He can't possibly play aginst us on Friday. If justice is seen to be done, of course, he will get two games, one of which will be carried over to next season.

I'm sure it happens but not very often. It's the least subtle way of forcing the ball loose possible and would almost certainly lead to nothing other than a repeat set. McGuire is smarter than that.

Besides it's not a great defence that he was swinging at the ball. Players are simply not allowed to swing their arms and catch players in the face and are entirely responsible for the consequences. When Gareth Raynor swung his arm at Tomkins and knocked him out I don't think many people thought he was deliberately trying to smack him in the face, he was clearly trying to dislodge the ball but that didn't count much in his defence. I'm pretty sure he got a 3 match ban for that incident. McGuire is very lucky he wasn't charged with a Grade C offence because many other similar incidents have been and have received a 3 match ban.

And then, in Leeds's own inimitable way, it'll probably end up being our fault.

Just like Danny's self-inflicted injury did back in 2010.