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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp]
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "I know it's the best we've got but that again is a poor backline IMO and we don't stand a chance.
Think how far we've slipped since 2006 when we had backs like Carney, Radders, Long and a younger Gleeson, Senior and Pryce! Top it off with Faz, Scully, Morley, Peacock, KFC and Newton and you see how far we've fallen.
Us, Leeds and Saints are doing or have done their part for national RL when are the other sides gonna step up?'"
There has been a real decline in the last few years in the quality of the SL.
I'm surprised the usual suspects who try to argue everything in the Super Duper League garden is rosy haven't responded to your post but perhaps the evidence is now so damning that even the most shameless apologists for the status quo are now keeping a low profile.... |
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| Quote: Odemwingie "I think we need to continue the game against france and help them develop!'"
I'd rather help us develop.
I've always liked the "rest of SL" idea, but I'd include some of the French forwards in that team posted in the OP. |
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| Quote: NickyKiss "In development terms i'm as happy with the game as I have been in a long time but I agree that the outside backs are a worry. We've outstanding pack and halfback talents come through in the past couple of years like Sam, Eastmond, Myler, Burgess, Joel Tomkins, Harrison etc but we just don't seem to be producing quality outside backs and thats a real worry.'" I reckon in austrailia, someone like Joel Tomkins would be coming through as a centre, maybe moving in later in his career. |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I reckon in austrailia, someone like Joel Tomkins would be coming through as a centre, maybe moving in later in his career.'"
I agree, and think he could excel there. When Madge played him at centre for a while a few games ago I thought the impact he had was very good. He's got a fair amount of pace for a 2nd rower, and has very good handling skills. |
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imo the england side is quite poor.
Our 3/4 line is terrible, we havent got two international centres together that could deal with one greg inglis, let alone inglis, folau, hayne, slater, the morris brothers... the list goes on.
I would like to see widdop play though, he could be an awesome addition to our side.
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I've always though we should let France have a 3 game series. 1 game against Lancashire, 1 game against Yorkshire, then a final game against England.
It would give France more games and a better chance to be competetive and it would also allow us to trail a few more english players in the first two games and reward the top performers with an England cap in the final game.'"
That would be unfair on Catalans. |
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| Quote: Odemwingie "That would be unfair on Catalans.'"
Yes, i suppose it would. I think it would be worth it though. |
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| Quote: Geoff "I'd rather help us develop.
I've always liked the "rest of SL" idea, but I'd include some of the French forwards in that team posted in the OP.'"
Maybe a double header could suit everyone, England v SL Rest, France v Wales in June, England v Wales, France v SL Rest in October.
Play them mid-season and before the autumn international. Leading up to 2013 world cup would give all eligible players a bit more international gametime. |
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| Quote: Wire_Yed "Did you see Cudjoe on the TV in the challenge cup, he couldn't hold the ball for toffee ?'"
The whole Huddersfield side had a shocker to be fair including superleagues man of steel and usually as safe as houses Brett Hodgson.
I like Cudjoe tbh. He isn't of the standard of some of the great wingers of the past like Robinson or even guys like Carney but he's just about the best we've got after Ryan Hall at the moment. |
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[quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg |
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| Quote: jonh "I have long since wanted a GB/England vs Best of SL series, if marketed right i think it could really work.
We also need to "service" France to ensure they have continuous International rugby, but I would place them against an Under 23's side.
Sadly though we need to reduce the players games so it could only be possible IF the clubs were happy to release players and still play SL rounds like they do for Origin in Australia but that would decimate those games so that would be pointless, the only other option is to cut the number of teams in SL to 10/12.'"
Why would we have to reduce the number of teams to 10/12, abit extreme. Scrap the magic weekend and then were only 2 games ahead of the Aussies, who back up after every origin and no one complains over there, so why cant the Superleague guys do the same? The games would be pointless at all and would decimate those games. |
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Peacock says we should give this a go as well.
Maybe some of the top brass will listen to the England captain?
rlhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_league/article7145704.ecerl
What harm would giving it a go do? If the RFL backed it and said for the next 5 years this is what we are doing and we are gonna throw our marketing teams at it and make sure the clubs release their players as well.
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[quote="king warrior":prbr924b]Adam Blair flew over yesterday and has been training the deal is going to be signed this week
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Peacock says we should give this a go as well.
Maybe some of the top brass will listen to the England captain?
rlhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_league/article7145704.ecerl
What harm would giving it a go do? If the RFL backed it and said for the next 5 years this is what we are doing and we are gonna throw our marketing teams at it and make sure the clubs release their players as well.'"
it doesn't just have to be a rest of the world team it could include english players who've been overlooked but the 'rest of the world' team coach may like the look of them. They would have a point to prove against their opposite number.
the stumbling block would be getting teams to release their 'stars'. leeds could have to release Webb, Eastwood, Lauititi, Peacock, Buderus, Sinfield, Mcguire. Thats quite a lot of players to risk an injury to. |
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| Quote: Pemps "it doesn't just have to be a rest of the world team it could include english players who've been overlooked but the 'rest of the world' team coach may like the look of them. They would have a point to prove against their opposite number.
the stumbling block would be getting teams to release their 'stars'. leeds could have to release Webb, Eastwood, Lauititi, Peacock, Buderus, Sinfield, Mcguire. Thats quite a lot of players to risk an injury to.'"
I didn’t even think about the English players who haven’t been selected! Obviously the more quality players that are eligible the stronger the comp will be.
In regards to making it ok with the clubs I’m sure something could be worked out. |
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My team including English players not selected for England against France.
The pack is a little weaker than Englands but O'Meley, Coley, Dallas Johnson & Buderus are just as good as the English players imo.
FB Webb
WG Roberts
C Gidley
C King
WG Richards
SO Kearney
SH Dobbo
P O'Meley
H Buderus
P Coley
S Galea
S Fitzgibbon
LF D.Johnson
Lynch
Monghan
Crabtree
Eastwood
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I've always liked the idea of playing a "rest of SL" side - it would be a much sterner test than France, and a much better preparation for games against NZ & OZ - and I think it would be better supported.
Have it instead of the Magic weekend and there's no issue with taking players away from their club game.
I'd definitely pay to watch us play a side something like this:
Webb
Roberts
King
Gidley
Richards
Kearney
Sammut
Ferriol
Buderus
Carlaw
Lauititi
Manu
Menzies
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