The Wellens abuse online doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. Saints seem to have got a bit of a football style element of fans who’ve jumped on board in recent seasons. Abuse of oppositions fans and players is a 7 day hobby for football fans and they’ll turn on their own in quick time. The sort of ones I’m referring to, were the lads giving it to their own fans in advance of last years Good Friday game, saying they’d sit where they wanted and would be telling people to do one if they challenged them (they weren’t that polite though). Social media is littered with them.

The abuse of Wellens and his family is awful and is a sad sign of the times we live in. Part of the reason i love rugby league is the mostly good natured banter that fans have with each other. I'm a Saints fan and have worked over the years with a lot of Wigan fans and we ribbed each other about wins and trophies etc,but it was good natured fun and above all we had our love of rugby above petty differences. It sometimes seems that we are moving away from that now and it's sad.

Agree 100% about some of our fans had idiots throwing bottles on the pitch last week.
It's one of the reasons I don't go to away games now

I'd imagine a few of them are relative newcomers to the Saints brand. Aka they jumped on the 'winning everything' bandwagon of a few years ago. They're too immature or too self-entitled, or both, to understand that success comes in waves, and are now not prepared to accept the possibility the good times may be ending for a while. That wasn't what they signed up for, and how dare Wellens and the Saints team betray them like this.

It must fall to the rest of the Saints faithful to put them right.

I agree it is upto the saints faithful to inform them that they are not as good as they think they are and must accept as a dominant force in RL it no longer applies to them.
Even Wire will move above Saints

Sorry if I’ve missed it but what has happened to Red Vee forum does anyone know?

It was 're-designed'

But being run on a 1p an hour hosting server

It has been reported as a hate crime to humanity and is being investigated by the police.

It has been re designed as another poster has mentioned but the original link to it doesn't work anymore. You need to search for "redvee" again and save the new link. Don't worry though, it is just as inviting to "foreigners" as it always was.

It went home on 70 minutes and hasn't been seen since.

What has Dodd done so badly wrong in the last 2 weeks to go from being back to his best and Saints fans celebrating rumours he's staying on, to now being to blame for the attacking issues and even an ex player in Sculthorpe calling him out? That has been some turnaround.

I'll await an update on the progress he's made from the bloke who runs Red Vee TV, who said in pre season that he should be twice the player Harry Smith is.

Christ alive I remember that - truly crossed the threshold of insanity there.

He followed it up with a beauty of an opinion last week, prior to the Warrington game, when he said that at a push Ashton and King would make a combined side. The other bloke (with the glasses, seems a sensible chap) enquired about Williams and his response was 'for who?'

Lomax has been a cracking player and at his best was possibly a better all round player than Williams (although it was extremely tight IMO) but he's not even close now and Dodd has never hit George Williams level. I've mentioned Dodd many times and constantly ask the question of 'what is his strength?' Great passing game-No, Great kicking game-No, Organiser-Not really, Great running game-No, Support runner-Not really, Great defender-He's ok. Harry Smith has some limitations also but he knows his game and has nailed on strengths that everyone can see.