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| Chase and Leuluai are an immense partnership.
Sinfield put in one of the worst stand-off performances in an International I've ever seen I think.
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| It's moments like this when you realise how many bell-ends follow rugby league.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Chase and Leuluai are an immense partnership.
Sinfield put in one of the worst stand-off performances in an International I've ever seen I think.'"
didn't notice him once. should never put an England jersey on ever again
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| England were woeful and there are very few positives from that match imo. Apart from Robinson I am struggling to think of anyone that played well. The Exiles werent even that good but they did play much better rugby and deserved their win. They looked threatening out wide where once again England looked clueless in defence. I thought Tommy played very well for the Exiles as did Chase. It certainly doesnt bode well for the 4 Nations.
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| Quote: Famous "England were woeful and there are very few positives from that match imo. Apart from Robinson I am struggling to think of anyone that played well. The Exiles werent even that good but they did play much better rugby and deserved their win. They looked threatening out wide where once again England looked clueless in defence. I thought Tommy played very well for the Exiles as did Chase. It certainly doesnt bode well for the 4 Nations.'" Westwood was the best player for us tonight and it's not even close best i've seen him play
Another note i've never seen manu smashed like that what a shot
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| England were absolute crap. Robinson looked threatening in attack but to be honest even he's rubbish for an international player and can't defend very well, showed by him getting caught out for the first try. The England just have absolutely no width whatsoever. It's all concentrated down the middle. There's little point having Sam Tomkins as fullback because the ball rarely goes out to him out wide. The one time it did there was no space because there were no dummy runners, he runs back the whole width of the field and not one player offers any sort of option, they all stand still. Myler was garbage, he's basically not present in attack unless someone makes a break. Sinfield was awful. Peacock looked nowhere near good enough, either he's not fit or he's past it. No threat provided by the centres (but what chance do they have with no attacking width).
I think the bulk of the forwards performed reasonably well, but on the whole the England side don't look up for it and the RFL should take the most blatantly obvious decision they will ever have to make and sack Steve McNamara!
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| Quote: Famous "England were woeful.'"
Quote: Famous "England were absolute crap.'"
Yet WE only lost to a last second try that came from a forward pass.
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| Quote: Catalancs "Yet WE only lost to a last second try that came from a forward pass.'"
We lost to a bunch of players who for the most part had never even played together before and had one week preparation. A lot of those England players have played together before. None of those players bar Leuluai would play international rugby for Australia or New Zealand. The Exiles weren't even made up of the best overseas players!!! There were so many quality players missing which made it a team that England really should have beaten but yet again the team played like they'd never seen each other before, had no width and didn't seem up for the game (bar Westwood). "WE" were crap!
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| I bet the Aussies, Kiwi's & Taffys are shltting their pants ........................
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| Quote: Catalancs "Yet WE only lost to a last second try that came from a forward pass.'"
I couldnt really care less if we won or lost. I was looking for a good performance, something to show that we were improving and had learned from the last x number of years. Little things like having a structure, being able to defend out wide, having some moves, players knowing what they are doing etc. If that last try hadnt have been scored and we had won then it wouldnt have made things any better. Even the Exiles with hardly any preparation and no games together looked a lot more structured and threatening. The England players have been playing internationals together, have had training camps and regular get togethers and still looked like a bunch of players that had no idea and had only just met up this morning. It wasnt even a particulalry fast or intense game and was a million miles behind the speed and intensity that Australia and New Zealand play at. Despite this we still lost and at times looked amateurish and inept.
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| WE weren't at full strength but we won't mention that.
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| It's a great game, it shows which players we need to get rid of for the 4 nations
Peacock
Sinfield
Morley (that really pains me to say that) save him for the league
Wilkin
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| Quote: Catalancs "WE weren't at full strength but we won't mention that.'"
And your point is what exactly? We missed a handful of players and the Exiles were also missing players. The performance was still poor no matter who played and it is very rare, if ever, England have their full team playing anyway due to injuries. I would be fairly certain that come the 4 Nations we will have a few players out again as will the other teams. It is certainly no excuse.
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| Now imagine if Exiles had Mick Monaghan at 9 and J Monaghan on the wing instead of Smelly
King in the centre
Hoffman in the pack
Dureau in the halfs
they would have torn us a new one
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Now imagine if Exiles had Mick Monaghan at 9 and J Monaghan on the wing instead of Smelly
King in the centre
Hoffman in the pack
Dureau in the halfs
they would have torn us a new one'"
But what if we had Brough and Widdop/Brown in the halves, Burgess and Ellis in the forwards? Much better contest.
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