Not big enough

Hastings isn’t small by any stretch. Very much in the Barrett style and size of half/13.

I agree with Rouges to a certain extent he has the game to play there but I personally don’t think it would be a wise move.

I wouldn’t like to see him having to do the donkey work in defence I think it would fatigue him and blunt the stuff he is good at, ie organising and pulling the strings.

I think Lam is going to go for size and aggression in his pack which is also why I think we will see a traditional Prop style player move there.

Hastings is the best HB in the comp imo. We'd be crazy to move him for anyone.

Play forwards in the forwards! It's not like we don't have enough of them.

If any of them are good enough to play the ball playing role, great. If not we'll have to adapt. It's not like we haven't got used to playing without Lockers.

I think we've struggled in the forwards at times recently, there's no way i'd be sticking halfbacks there.

100%. I think about what team I’d pick to start next season at times and I struggle to fit in all the forwards I’d like to as it is.

Feel sure Isa is the right choice for #13 having thought about it. Bateman is a natural right side second row and we haven't had one of those since he left. Smithies hasn't earned a starting spot yet. Partington is the only viable alternative for me but Isa's experience should get him the shirt.

TBH I’m not fussed who gets it, all those mentioned are worthy contenders IMO

I wonder if the club have considered or are considering "retiring" the 13 shirt?

Why?

Not for me, it should be one of the shirts that any young backrower should aspire to wearing, a legends shirt.

In recognition of a very special and loyal player and as an acknowledgment to Sean`s outstanding contribution to Wigan Warriors and to Rugby League.

No no and a thousand times no, the 13 shirt is a position in the field, I get the move to squad numbers but the number described the position.

What about the other players who’ve played loose forward for us? Hanley had it, I remember him silencing the saints fans before kick off at Wembley when he ran down the touch line to test his fitness, he then went on to destroy them in the match. It passed to bell then on to Farrell, the shirt is part of the club, you add to it’s value and prestige as a player you don’t own it, you are lent it

In my time supporting Wigan I’ve seen some great players in that shirt we can’t forget that legacy we build on it.

He isn't the best 13 we have ever had so why would we? Do we retire number 12 too when Faz goes?

The retiring of jerseys (unless that player has died whilst at the club in the Marc Vivien Foe example at Man City) is more than cringeworthy. Birmingham City wanted to do it for some 16 year old kid FFS.

It's worse than giving a number to the fans.

Agree 100%

I have seen many players in the 13 shirt. My first being in 1958. It was Roy Evans who was a butcher and who along with his father had a shop in Lower Ince.

And so I go back a very long way as a truly loyal supporter.

And yes, Sean may not be the best 13 the club has ever had.

But he IS a special player who has remained loyal to the club and who didn`t sign for the dosh and who didn`t move on for more dosh.

Anyhow, I just wondered if the "retiring" of the shirt was a consideration.