Who on earth from? Everyone knows Wane has been exposed as useless.

What does he care about most? Reaction of others or the good of the club?

If he was replaced, it isn't a knee jerk reaction. It's a decision to move in a different direction, because clearly the wrestle and tattle em approach doesn't work. Everyone in the league, and I mean everyone plays more attractive rugby than we do. That's not a fluke, it's by design, Wanes low risk bash and smash style rugby is the root cause. It's not new anymore, it isn't working, thus it's time for new ideas.

Leicester gave Ranieri his P45 9 months after winning the premier league and with his side in the Champions League quarter final. The key to successful management at the very top is to make the necessary changes before it even starts to go wrong. We have now passed that point. Wane should have gone months ago, and if he hasn't gone by Monday morning, then there'll be a damn sight more criticism.

I don't think "useless" is the right word. As a previous poster said, 5 trophies in 5 years isn't that shabby (most of the others would bite your hand off for that record). But I do think he's now being exposed as out of depth. It only took Nobby a couple of seasons to be outdone by Smith. As much as I loath McDermott & his "big I am" bullying attitude, he's turned round Leeds from the abyss of last year (yes there were extenuating circumstances) & Powell and Radford have been a revelation. I sorry to say that Wane simply hasn't been inovative enough and we've been too relient on the likes of SOL and the (now plainly) vain hope that Tommy would return as good as good as was when he left.
New blood needed at all levels I think.

I doubt he will think that way.

He got rid of Nobby when it became apparent we weren't going to win anything, even though there were plenty people criticising him that final season for 'keeping Nobby waiting' on his new contract.

It must be apparent now that it's over for SW. Nice chap though he is, something has gone fundamentally wrong this season, and although I'd get rid of several players at the first opportunity, the main buck has to stop with the man in charge of them.

The problem for me is that whilst SW is a great motivator, he is incapable of having original thoughts.

We still play the same tactics that SW learnt under Michael Maguire.

Now this is NOT disastrous by itself - When we had Deacon and/or Harris as the assistant to Wane, they setup the attack and Wane worked the defence and motivation.

Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. I don't know what John Winder is supposed to do, but he clearly is not in the same class as Deacon or Harris as an assistant.

Right now, having just got back from watching that shower of shïte, I would happily replace both.

However, at the VERY least, we need to bring in someone to work alongside SW as an attacking/structural coach.

But Wane also needs to make the time to do what Maguire did before joining us and go off and learn from other sports.

Many years ago, we sacked our coaches when we had just won the cup because the directors knew that we needed something different to take us onto the next level.

In 2009 Lenegan did exactly the same with Noble when it was clear his job had been done and we needed something extra.

In 2017, Sadly I think a similar decision may need to be taken.

All coaches have a shelf life and sadly I think Wane has reached the end of his at Wigan,it happens in sport if IL allows this to carry on then we will I suspect be facing what Warrington have just gone through and we all know how that ended up.

Unfortunately I think that is probably correct.
Unless SW accepts he needs help or possibly a different direction then a new guy must come in.
His interview after the Wakey was a little sad. He wanted to sound angry but his eyes just looked forlorn.
Not totally sure if he is a good guy let down by his players or if he has reached his limit.
I won't rejoice if he goes but unless he is prepared to change I think he will inevitably depart.
As much as I dislike the tactics senior players must also take responsibility. Player of the year is Davies who has embarrassed the majority of the first squad who have shown very little appetite for a long slog.or even turn up when it really matters

For me, Far too many players have returned having left the club whilst in good form and come back a shadow of their former self. Joel Tomkins has never been the same since his return, Sam Tomkins has been no where near as influential as he was prior to leaving for the NRL (I felt Morgan Escare was brilliant in the first half of the season in his place, things seemed to fall apart when he got injured) . Tommy L has looked like he has just been going through the motions, He was one of my fav players and I was gutted when he left originally but he just seems to be missing that spark that he had. Joe Burgess has spent all season talking the talk on twitter but doing very little (although admittedly he's carried knocks)

The annoying thing is some of those players have come back on big money which could have better een spent on bringing in some fresh talent.

I don't understand how a very similar set of players could be champions 12 months ago to be so poor this season. Defensively we have been terrible and that fire/desire that kept us going in previous seasons has just gone.

I can only hope that a good preseason with a fully fit squad can help us next season because I don't know where we go from here.

A season with very few postives other than the emergence of Tom Davies

You lot really don't get it do you.

Yesterday two teams turned up. One wanted to play attacking RL the other wanted to break heads.

The team wanting to break heads has been doing that for years getting steadily worse each season.

This season they gave up playing rugby altogether instead working on on the expectation that they were Wigan and thus entitled to get whatever they wanted.

Fans have always been jelous of Wigan, not me, Wigan used to be a beacon imho of how it should be done - not now.

Your team is an exact reflection of your coach, a boorish thug. Like all his kind he got away with bullying for a while but this season people got wise including some of his players and some of your fans.

You are plain awfull to watch that's the truth. Yesterday was niggle after niggle and Farrels slap that was just cringe worthy.

I don't mind tough teams but not teams coached to be dirty. After every tackle yesterday a Wakefield player seemed to emerge with an injury. That's not accidental that's deliberate.

In the end an attractive brand of RL triumphed. Sad thing is that there could and should have been two teams playing that way.

Cut out the arrogance and the thuggish EE and I'm sure you'll soon be a genuine top 4 team again - it's not nailed on - you have no god given right - but at least you'll be attempting it the right way.

Probably right in this instance but he'd have said the same whatever the circumstances. He genuinely thinks he's a stand up comedian these days.

Had a bit of lemon this morning?

Out of the last five grand finals we’ve been in four of them, but we aren’t genuine top 4 because of one bad year... funny.

Although, I would like to see Wane go, we need someone with more attacking flair and fresh ideas.

We got rid of Noble because his job had been done? What did we win in 2009? Or 2008 for that matter? Or the year before?

Not sure what you think I have to feel bitter about.

Wigan are not a local rivalry and unless we get our stadium sorted will always be a bigger club than us. I have no axe to grind it's how I see it.

Yes you've been winning can't deny that but your not attracting are you. There is no buzz around Wigan like there used to be. You have some potentially very good players but hand on heart do you enjoy watching them as much as the 80's and 90's teams - I don't, give me Cas, Hull and even W akefield any day.