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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Spot on. The hypocrisy from Wane s laughable though.'"

Why was it hypocritical of SW?

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Why was it hypocritical of SW?'"


Do you see/hear his reaction to Warrington "helping" Syndey Roosters earlier this year?

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Do you see/hear his reaction to Warrington "helping" Syndey Roosters earlier this year?'"

Yes I did. But why was it hypocritical?

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Yes I did. But why was it hypocritical?'"


The reaction at the time wasn't. Planning to train with the Rabbitohs is.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "The reaction at the time wasn't. Planning to train with the Rabbitohs is.'"

It would be slightly odd for Michael Maguire to come over for the WCC and not use Wigan's training facilities wouldn't' it? He and SW are very close friends too. Why wouldn't you help a friend out.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "It would be slightly odd for Michael Maguire to come over for the WCC and not use Wigan's training facilities wouldn't' it? He and SW are very close friends too. Why wouldn't you help a friend out.'"


But surely the same could be said for Tony Smith helping out his close friend Trent Robinson and nephew Keegan who are both part of the Roosters set-up?

I agree it would be odd for Wane not to give Maguire a helping hand, but surely you can see that he is a hypocrite for doing so AFTER criticising Tony Smith for doing the exact same thing.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "But surely the same could be said for Tony Smith helping out his close friend Trent Robinson and nephew Keegan who are both part of the Roosters set-up?'"

Yes I know Robinson worked with Smith's brother, but it isn't the same. Warrington were over in Sydney for heaven's sake, not hosting the Roosters but actively helping them out.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Yes I know Robinson worked with Smith's brother, but it isn't the same. Warrington were over in Sydney for heaven's sake, not hosting the Roosters but actively helping them out.'"


Warrington have gone on pre-season tours to Australia before and trained with Sydney Roosters in previous years. What they did in 2014 was no different to other pre-season trips. Have South Sydney trained with Wigan before?

I'm surprised at you to be honest because you're normally very level-headed and fair. It's quite clear that Wane slagged Smith off for doing something that he is now planning on doing himself. That's hypocrisy personified.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Warrington have gone on pre-season tours to Australia before and trained with Sydney Roosters in previous years. What they did in 2014 was no different to other pre-season trips. Have South Sydney trained with Wigan before?

I'm surprised at you to be honest because you're normally very level-headed and fair. It's quite clear that Wane slagged Smith off for doing something that he is now planning on doing himself. That's hypocrisy personified.'"

Ah well, as they say love is blind. You've found my blind spot. I don't mind criticism of SW, but I hate the name-calling.

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talk about nit picking anything Waney does or says you lot will pick the bones out of it eh YG.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Ah well, as they say love is blind. You've found my blind spot. I don't mind criticism of SW, but I hate the name-calling.'"


icon_biggrin.gif I'd hardly class it as "name-calling" by saying he is acting hypocritically, especially when it's so blatantly obvious as well.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Warrington have gone on pre-season tours to Australia before and trained with Sydney Roosters in previous years. What they did in 2014 was no different to other pre-season trips. Have South Sydney trained with Wigan before?

I'm surprised at you to be honest because you're normally very level-headed and fair. It's quite clear that Wane slagged Smith off for doing something that he is now planning on doing himself. That's hypocrisy personified.'"


Wane slagged off Warrington for agreeing to "play as Wigan", not for training with the Roosters. If you are going to claim someone is an hypocrite at least get the facts right in the first place.

In answer to your question, yes South Sydney have trained with Wigan before.

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Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Wane slagged off Warrington for agreeing to "play as Wigan", not for training with the Roosters. If you are going to claim someone is an hypocrite at least get the facts right in the first place.

In answer to your question, yes South Sydney have trained with Wigan before.'"


Hi Andy.

I think Wane had an issue in general with Warrington training with Sydney Roosters and helping them to prepare for their game against Wigan. Even it was specifically to do with them setting up like Wigan, are you really that naive to think that Wigan won't be giving Maguire pointers on how Saints play?

Now Shaun Wane is planning on training with Sydney Rabbitohs to help them prepare for their game with Saints.

Dress it up however you like, that is quite clearly hypocritical behaviour.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Warrington have gone on pre-season tours to Australia before and trained with Sydney Roosters in previous years. What they did in 2014 was no different to other pre-season trips. Have South Sydney trained with Wigan before?

I'm surprised at you to be honest because you're normally very level-headed and fair. It's quite clear that Wane slagged Smith off for doing something that he is now planning on doing himself. That's hypocrisy personified.'"


I think it fair to say there are both similarities and differences. Maguire is a former coach of Wigan, a personal friend of both Wane and Lenagan and the tournament is being hosted in this country and the game held just a few miles down the road, so it was always going to be the case that Souths would train here. In addition, it was admitted that Wire changed their style of play to copy that of Wigan's purely in order to help the Roosters (which is what I understand was Wane's main problem) so to suggest that Wire were only there in their own best interests is a little disingenuous unless you are prepared to show that this is normal for their pre season training regime. It was the fact that a British team was going out of it's way to help the Aussies beat their fellow SL representatives that angered him. I have little doubt that you can see a marked contrast between that and merely acting as hosts to a visiting nation. Were Wigan to follow the same pattern and adjust their style of play to mirror Saints then I would agree that there is indeed a level of hypocrisy. Can you honestly see Wane disrupting his pre-season in that way though? I'd be very surprised to say the least! Having said all that, I don't think his reaction to what Wire did last year served him well. He'd have been better advised just to get on with it in my opinion.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I think it fair to say there are both similarities and differences. Maguire is a former coach of Wigan, a personal friend of both Wane and Lenagan and the tournament is being hosted in this country and the game held just a few miles down the road, so it was always going to be the case that Souths would train here. In addition, it was admitted that Wire changed their style of play to copy that of Wigan's purely in order to help the Roosters (which is what I understand was Wane's main problem) so to suggest that Wire were only there in their own best interests is a little disingenuous unless you are prepared to show that this is normal for their pre season training regime. It was the fact that a British team was going out of it's way to help the Aussies beat their fellow SL representatives that angered him. I have little doubt that you can see a marked contrast between that and merely acting as hosts to a visiting nation. Were Wigan to follow the same pattern and adjust their style of play to mirror Saints then I would agree that there is indeed a level of hypocrisy. Can you honestly see Wane disrupting his pre-season in that way though? I'd be very surprised to say the least! Having said all that, I don't think his reaction to what Wire did last year served him well. He'd have been better advised just to get on with it in my opinion.'"


I don't disagree with any of that mate. Especially the last 2 sentences. icon_biggrin.gif

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