Foul play is foul play. 1st minute or last.

That's not the point though. A red card in that situation is nothing but symbolic. It's hardly even worth the effort of the referee raising his arm! The game was over, the incident resolved itself. The best thing to do in that situation was get everything under control and make sure the game finished as soon as possible. A red card was neither here or there and would not have served any purpose whatsoever, so there was no need to show one.

It wouldn't have just been for show yes, but his line "there's only x amount of time left" was wrong. If Leuluai had knocked Fox on his arris would he have sent him off or would he have had used that line?

If he was just going to calm it down then he should have done so and not used the time left as an excuse is the point i'm making I guess. As someone has said on the VT, when is it the right time to punch someone? Do you get away with it if the game is gone and there isn't much time left? Don't forget, you can be sent off after the final whistle. You may not get a mandatory ban, but it all goes on your record for future reference should you do the same again.

and the MM sending off against Bradford. Elima elbowed MM in the tackle MM hit him once and was sent off and banned...

A minute to go or 10 mins in makes no difference it should have been red foul play should not be made a joke of like Ganson did last night lets hope the Judiciary panel makes an issue of it.I have been watching RL for 60 years now and the last few seasons I have been considering not going to matches after this season the refereeing standards have hit a new low for me the incostintuency of refereeing decisions and the panel are making a mockery of RL .Wigan had 3 men sent of for throwing punches against Saints and got sent off ,Paul Wood in the CC final throws a punch no repercussions lets have some consitency .

We just need to accept that we can't expect to be refereed fairly.

SW and the players need to accept this as well - it is absolutely vital that we keep our discipline. The referees have shown this season that they are taking a hard line with Wigan players and we cannot afford to give them any possibility of red carding our players.

I have no issue with the MM send off and subsequent ban. I do have an issue with a player stood over another (much smaller) player and punching him in the head. If he had copped an elbow and then lashed out on the floor, the refs response would have been about right. Leuluai knew exactly what he was doing after the first punch. There's also an argument that he realised he wasn't going to get anything thrown back at him. Regardless of that, if no action is taken a precedent has been set for all levels of the game. The time in the game is completely irrelevant. A player could look at the clock, see there's a couple of minutes left and then realise he can start smacking people as there will be no further consequence than a jokey comment from the ref.

Having not seen the incident, having had the remote taken off me after 1 1/2 games on TV, I cannot comment until I have watched it. But you are far too sensible for this board.

A red card would have been something the judiciary could not possibly ignore.

As things are, I don't trust them sufficiently to assume they'll take action without having their hand forced in that way. I know that players can still be red-carded and then be dealt with as 'sending off sufficient', but even a bunch of bent Yorkshiremen would struggle to view that video evidence and take into account a refereeing decision to award a red card without realising they needed to impose an extra punishment.

For me, Ganson's attitude - while some seem to be applauding it - seemed almost designed to make it seem a less serious incident than it was. But that wasn't handbags. A guy was knocked to the floor and punched in the head at least three times by two Leeds players. And yet this is the same referee who intervened in the match last week to ensure that MM was sent off for a high tackle which was nowhere near as severe.



That's all anyone needs to know about your position on this.

No he didn't. James had already seen it, Steve said so.

Given that you are a) a troll, currently enjoying life in your new (though, I suspect, temporary) home; b) didn't see the incident; and c) a Cas fan, who presumably is furious that Wakefield got to the play-offs, you aren't someone it's worth discussing the matter with.

i was astounded that Ganson turned what was in effect an assault on a defenceless player on the floor, by repeatedly punching his head, into a joke.
was expecting Red.....didnt even go on report.

if he doesnt get at least 3 matches, then the disciplinary is a joke...(but we already know that )

a) This is not home, it's like a doss house where I do occasional charity work.
b) I did see the MM incident which I referred to.
c) Not being from Cas, nor ever having lived there, I don't suffer from the inbred, small town mentality that contaminates that & this site. I am, however, furious that Wakey got beat in the play-offs as I had tipped them to beat Leeds.

You won't discuss it because you aren't capable of discussion.