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Quote: Hockmonster "Wasn't just the poor defence though. Some of the unstructured attack yesterday reminded me of the Catalans semi-final under Noble. Finch was throwing passes as though he was in a 7's tournament.'"


Ive mentioned in another thread that some of Finch's passes were crazy! This was mainly due to our attack being stood so flat though and he had no running options. This was also apparent in the amount of times he was tackled with the ball in hand because he couldnt find a runner. I dont care how much the players say they were desperate to win the CC again and how much they wanted to go back to Wembley the lack of enthusiasm shown says different.

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Quote: Hockmonster "Wasn't just the poor defence though. Some of the unstructured attack yesterday reminded me of the Catalans semi-final under Noble. Finch was throwing passes as though he was in a 7's tournament.'"


28 points scored should have been enough. Offhand, I can only remember 3 times we've conceded more than that. It was primarily individual errors that cost us, rather than any overall structure.

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Quote: Geoff "28 points scored should have been enough. Offhand, I can only remember 3 times we've conceded more than that. [sizeIt was primarily individual errors that cost us[/size, rather than any overall structure.'"


Any coach of any team could say that about any points conceded. It is very rare indeed that points are scored where no individual can have an element of responsibility attached.

The teams which win reduce those individual errors to a minimum.

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Quote: Top Saint "Any coach of any team could say that about any points conceded. It is very rare indeed that points are scored where no individual can have an element of responsibility attached.

The teams which win reduce those individual errors to a minimum.'"


True, but many tries are scored through a poor defensive structure, rather than individual errors. That wasn't the case yesterday.

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Quote: Sunshine state "I'm sure a few weeks ago IL said on Radio Manchester the money from the Challenge Cup was £50.000 the Grand Final reaps £250.000,'"


He said more or less the exact opposite last season.

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Quote: Chester Pie Man "If that is true then no wonder our game is in such a bad way , that a season long campaign can bring less rewards than a 5 game competition.'"


I agree with you mate, Warrington didn't get enough rewards for being Champions last season, Leeds got more for winning that end of season mickey mouse that the top sides didn't take seriously and got knocked straight out of! It should have been us that got all the prize money.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "I agree with you mate, Warrington did get enough reward for not being Champions last season, Leeds got more for winning that end of season all important tournament the top sides take very, very seriously indeed and care about winning more than anything else and bottled when it mattered! It should have been Leeds and Saints that got all the prize money.'"


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Quote: Northampton_Saint "Edited for increased accuracy/reduced bitterness
Nice cast Sal, got that one hook, line and sinker k020.gif k020.gif

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Quote: Sunshine state "I'm sure a few weeks ago IL said on Radio Manchester the money from the Challenge Cup was £50.000 the Grand Final reaps £250.000,'"


Here you gohttps://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18855004rl

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Quote: Fames "Let's hope that 2012 will now mirror 2010 when Leeds also beat us in the Cup. We can now concentrate on SL and play-offs without any Wembley distractions.'"


I seem to recall SOL saying that the players sat in the dressing room after that for a good while and spoke about how much they wanted to win the GF. Hopefully they did something similar on Saturday and will pull their tripe out for the next 11/12 games and salvage something from the season.

Unfortunately I don't think we will and we'll be left with a dinner plate to show for our efforts.

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If our key players are fit for the play offs we will do very well - we've already proved that over the course of the season. Hopefully Tommy can return along with Pat and the others remain relatively injury free. A full strength Wigan team firing on all cylinders would have a very good chance against any other team in SL of winning the Grand Final.

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Quote: Conroy "I seem to recall SOL saying that the players sat in the dressing room after that for a good while and spoke about how much they wanted to win the GF. Hopefully they did something similar on Saturday and will pull their tripe out for the next 11/12 games and salvage something from the season.

Unfortunately I don't think we will and we'll be left with a dinner plate to show for our efforts.'"


The way I see it is it shows how far we've come over the last few years when we're viewing that as a potentially disappointing season.

Its easy to forget we could barely buy a trophy over the last decade or so prior to 2010.

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Quote: MadDogg "I seem to recall SOL saying that the players sat in the dressing room after that for a good while and spoke about how much they wanted to win the GF. Hopefully they did something similar on Saturday and will pull their tripe out for the next 11/12 games and salvage something from the season.

Unfortunately I don't think we will and we'll be left with a dinner plate to show for our efforts.'"


The way I see it is it shows how far we've come over the last few years when we're viewing that as a potentially disappointing season.

Its easy to forget we could barely buy a trophy over the last decade or so prior to 2010.'"


Oh yeah, definitely.

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Quote: MadDogg "The way I see it is it shows how far we've come over the last few years when we're viewing that as a potentially disappointing season.

Its easy to forget we could barely buy a trophy over the last decade or so prior to 2010.'"


According to Northampton Saint that's because rl was far better pre-2010 than it is now...when Saints are rubbish... icon_lol.gif

I would be disappointed with the league leaders shield. Its a micky mouse trophy that is meaningless really. check my sig.

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Quote: pk "According to Northampton Saint that's because rl was far better pre-2010 than it is now...when Saints are rubbish...
Ooh, I have another obsessed stalker then do I? I do tend to accumulate them for some reason...

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