Won't get into details due to the whole libelous comments situation but I'd be surprised if they didn't get sent down. Very very disturbing what occurred.

mines 20.

without wanting to derail the thread.........most places are run by reputable firms, but there are still the odd rogue forms who dont care who they employ as long as theres bodies on the job

perhaps your sweeping generalisations and lack of knowledge of all the facts should make you bite your tongue before you post! but hey carry on!

hope he recovers quickly!

there are screening processes in place, a CRB check and numerous courses (NVQ LEVEL 1&2 ) HAVE TO BE UNDERTAKEN, along with a hefty registration fee to work on the doors, i worked the doors for over 20 years, retired now, too old, too fat, too knackered!
i do take offence with all the sweeping generalistions that are thrown in the direction of doormen, the majority are just working to subsidise their weekly income. i started working as a doorman to help me get through my nurse training!
to call them all scum or worse is out of order! there are good and bad in all works of life!
if the door staff in question did commit the offences alledged they will face the wrath of the law and probably go to prison.

put that on one side, just imagine some peoples behaviour in pubs and clubs on king street for example without door staff?

i've worked wigan, leigh,warrington,st helens,widnes & a few other places over the years and have seen some shocking behaviour by both punters and door staff. my blood boils however when people stand in judgement of a job they've probably never done or have the bottle to do! in all probability have a negative view of door staff because they've been pulled up for behaving like a tit in public themselves and therefore think they're an expert on the subject!


people who slag door staff soon change their mind when they are having their faces smashed in by some drunk, they're usually the ones who run and hide behind them for protection....
rant over


get well soon sia!

Was shocked to read about this. Get well soon Sia.

I have to disagree, every bouncer I've ran into is a miserable sod who thinks every person who's had a drink wants to cause trouble and have a fight. 2 of them once laid my mate out with one punch because he was having a fag in the queue.

So because you've had bad dealing with door staff there ALL the same . Maybe 10 yrs ago when the old school doorman wouldn't take any crap but not no more , Doormen screened under the government now the "SIA" they have to take a college course and have all kinds of criminal record checks to get there badge now . So you'll find most doors have decent lads now.I have worked on the doors about 6 yrs ago for 5 yrs in wigan,ashton,sale and warrington just before the SIA badge came out and believe me that new badge took out a lot NOT all but a lot of horrible people off the doors .the imperial has had bell ends on and ppl I know have had bother with them before as in my 1st comment .


Get well soon Sia.

When i used to go out regularly i always found there to be one knob out of every bouncer squad on the doors of most places i used to go. Most of them are alright as long as you dont push your luck but theres always one who cant wait for it to kick off. When one kicks off the others simply have to back him up even if he is in the wrong.

In recent times i havent come across as many idiots as there used to be. They seem a lot more professional nowadays on the places ive been to.

Get well soon Sia and I hope justice is served to whichever party was in the wrong.

Bouncers get a bad rep. It's not a job i'd certainly want to do. If you're working he door on some big pub or club, you have to be ready for it too kick off, because sadly, it is inevitable with alcohol and young people it will kick off at some point. This can create stress and sometimes over reactions.

Now within every profession there are unprofessional people, and it is much the same with bouncing. But to tar all of them with the same brush is just wrong. I have never had a problem with a bouncer ever in all my life. And I think that is because when i've had a drink, I keep myself to myself and don't become agressive or violent, maybe a little giddy, thus i've never encountered any agressive behaviour from any bouncer ever.

I have been on nights out in pretty much every city in the north west, and bouncers are all pretty much the same - nice lads, but don't overstep your mark because some are prone to over reaction, which is understandable considering the numpties they must have to deal with on a weekly basis.

After my own experience I'm desperately trying to bite my tongue after reading through some of the comments on this thread!.. Although I have no doubt that some are decent blokes, But there are dodgy people in every walk of life and the bad few spoil the reputation of the majority. Like someone has said If they were in the wrong then the judicial system will deal with them accordingly. So let's see official reports before mudslinging opinions.

i think this thread needs to stick to get well messages and not peoples opinions on what happened leave it to the police and courts to sort out.


Get well soon Sia

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So.... Sia Soliola is out in St Helens for a J20 and all of a sudden unprovoked he gets a heavy doing off a few bouncers (or whoever) nothing was said and it was just out of the blue and Sia was minding his own business??

hmm

whether thats the case or not, of course i hope the big man is ok

Where do saints stand as they'll still be paying soliola who will now need plenty of time off to recover from the injuires inflicted.

They could put him on SSP?