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Quote: onedego "so we need to find out why, and fix it. There's only 2000 more in South Stand than went on Friday night, that's the minority...

It looks fun... and people tend to join in with stuff that looks fun!'"


A lot of the people who sit in the South might not necessarily go to the away games.

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To be fair Bowtun Warrior there were people sat close to the singers who stayed sat down when 'Stand up for the Champions' was sung. If those are the same people who are looking around puzzled when Dale Cavese is sung then that's a result for me.

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Why dont the singers in the South try the East for a home match to get all the singers together?

Why dont you approach the club with the idea for a one off match to allow admission for Brigantes members in the South to use their tickets at no extra cost in the East and see what happens?

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Quote: Jimmy Birts Lives On "To be fair Bowtun Warrior there were people sat close to the singers who stayed sat down when 'Stand up for the Champions' was sung. If those are the same people who are looking around puzzled when Dale Cavese is sung then that's a result for me.'"



there always will be those who dont sing or in that case, stand to a song....

but i was sat in a group of 7 (including me) and none of those with me liked it or were willing to join in on the very basis that it had no meaning.

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Quote: EastStandFaithful "Why dont the singers in the South try the East for a home match to get all the singers together?

Why dont you approach the club with the idea for a one off match to allow admission for Brigantes members in the South to use their tickets at no extra cost in the East and see what happens?'"




This would be a good idea to ask the club but a doubt the club would be willing people to go into a stand which they have not paid for because of all the fans who have purchased seasons tickets might not agree with tthe idea

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That atmosphere wont happen at a home game. The flags are as good as we'll get unfortunately.

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I think that the only way we would get the majority of the fans to sing is if we sing a popular song that most people know. I presume most Liverpool fans sing You'll Never Walk Alone because everyone knows the lyrics. What song we might sing I don't know but I'm sure someone come come up with a good idea.
I must admit to not knowing the song that mentions the stars of Wigan rugby league.

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You mean "We've got Barrett and Kenny, Edwards and Hanley, Boston and Kevin Iro-o-o!"

HTH icon_wink.gif

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Quote: the-Bowtun-Warrior "there always will be those who dont sing or in that case, stand to a song....

but i was sat in a group of 7 (including me) and none of those with me liked it or were willing to join in on the very basis that it had no meaning.'"


Can't please all of the people all of the time I suppose pal. As for Just Can't Get Enough, that was sung with some gusto at the final whistle as the team came to applaud the crowd but you'll never get that sung for 20 minutes non-stop. In terms of the meaning, the Dale Cavese is one the great Ultras anthems and it started off a few games back with a few lads who want to bring an Ultras culture to Wigan. It won't suit everyone of course but it captured the spirit of the moment on Friday night and there were certainly more than 50 people involved as you can see from the video. There were hundreds involved. I've supported Wigan for years and that was the most joyous, carnival type atmosphere that I have ever witnessed. It didn't have to say Wigan in the song. It was letting the old enemy and the viewers on SKY know that we were up for a celebration.

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One of the biggest issues i've found is finding the words for all the songs. Most of them i've picked up (and i gotta say, that's always easier at away games). The Dale Cavese is simple, anyone can join in with it. Classic example is with 'Just Can't Get Enough', the majority don't know the verse so just join in at the chorus... you can hear it build...

all the things you do to me and all the things you said... i just can get enough, i just can't get enough... We slip and slide and we're falling in love and i JUST CANT SEEM TO GET ENOUGH OF, DU DU DU...

the more complex the song, the harder it is to join in. And like Jimmy says, it's the celebration that matters. To add my own onto there, nothing sounds more vulnerable than a silent crowd as it brings the "you only sing when you're winning" and "you're not singing" in retaliation. Any sound is better than no sound, and if Dale Cavese is the way to get sound, then so be it!

Perhaps a thread on here, and on the other forum with mirrored posts would help those who dont know the songs to learn em, and join in! Perhaps we could team up with wiganwarriors.com GNO section for a "lyrics" page.

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Quote: onedego "Classic example is with 'Just Can't Get Enough', the majority don't know the verse so just join in at the chorus... you can hear it build...

all the things you do to me and [sizeEVERYTHING[/size you said... i just can get enough, i just can't get enough... We slip and slide and we're falling in love and i JUST CANT SEEM TO GET ENOUGH OF, DU DU DU... '"


Edited. Really annoys me that people don't sing this bit properly. eusa_naughty.gif

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Over the last two or three seasons an ultras group has been formed at Blackburn. Fed up with sitting near to folk who don't stand or sing, they have migrated from the Blackburn End to the Darwen End. There are 2k season ticket holders in the Darwen End and there's now a waiting list for season tickets in that section. Of the 2k in there, there are perhaps three or four hundred who stand and sing with Dale Cavese being a feature song. The problem is, it doesn't spread to other areas of the ground.

This is the problem with all seater stadia and the topics I hear on the Wigan forums are replicated on the Rovers ones. Before Ewood Park was redeveloped, the home 'singers' congregated on the Blackburn End, a standing terrace behind the goals. All like minded fans who wanted to chant and have a good time whilst following their team. As like fans from virtually every other team up and down the country, you stood at the back and fairly central. Easy to get songs going because everyone was together.

In all seater stadia you take a chance who you sit next to. At Ewood, I've a mate to my right but to my left are a group of over 60's who never sing. Nothing wrong with that, but that's the way it is today, pockets of fans here and there who want days of old and pockets of fans who don't. I've followed Rovers away to places like Newcastle and Man United and both these grounds have been like morgues. But, when these same sets of fans come to Ewood, all together and popped up on booze, they have their end of the ground rocking.

Unfortunately, from a fans perspective, most home games are 'average' at best. Saints at Easter was obviously bouncing and Warrington would have been had we won icon_rolleyes.gif I can't see many more home games that will fall into the 'bouncing' category. Away days are something else though and that's why Widnes on Friday was so good.

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Quote: Scouse Pie2 "You mean "We've got Barrett and Kenny, Edwards and Hanley, Boston and Kevin Iro-o-o!"

HTH Yes, that's the one.

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I like the idea of a singing section at home, although where it should be I'm not sure, the top of the South is pretty high up and the noise doesn't carry that well to where I sit near halfway in the East. Thinking of getting a season ticket in the South next year for a little more atmosphere at home games.

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