They seem to be under orders to support whoever's the underdog, which at least is an improvement on Eddie Hemmings, who basically supported St Helens, but it still comes over as rank amateurism.

They're supposed to be neutral, and should sound it.

Terry O'Connor isn't a commentator he's a summeriser, a pretty awful one at that.
We seem stuck for quality commentators but not summerisers. Carney is good although he's now used as an anchor. Wells is good and Wilkin is excellent, when used Shenton is very good as well. Why SKY persist with "Baz and Tez" when there are so many better alternatives I don't know. They had their comedy slot on Boots n All years ago and have gone backwards since.

As for commentators, I quite like Bill Arthur but they need to bring in quality people alongside. There are folk about on local radio and club tv, I do think they could do a lot better than than current talkers!

Give me Hemmings any day or the week over what’s there now

Terrible the lot of them. Terry and Baz in particular.

They often just stop mid sentence and start a new one.

Phrases often heard like 'Charnley with his speed and quickness'

He says, “He done good.”
Well, at least he doesn’t say, “Him done good.”

Wells is a weird one, there's a lot of people who think he talks a lot of sense, and theres a lot of people who think he talks a lot of e, weirdly it seems to be the people that like 'baz n tez' who seem threatened by wells being able to actually put a decent sentence together.

Personally i like him, whether he should be present and pitchside at the moment observing every other team and hearing everyones calls and set ups whilst he works for cas is another matter.

Always surprises me that they dont get more NRL/Aussie players as guests on there, they've all been media trained and are generally good value to listen to. PLus i've got a guilty pleasure of hearing ocker accents, they're like scottish bank notes, you've never seen (heard) two the same.

It's working really well for them

I quite like Jon Wells and I used to enjoy the touch screen stuff.

Wells and Carney are great. The rest can go.

I agree about Wells he is more professional than O'Connor Or McDermott they should have gone with Eddie and Stevo. Tony Rea is a good co presenter, Chris Warren was good as a commentator and presenter. Wilkin is a good assessor of a game and would be a good fit for SKY. Carney, Wells and Wilkin would be a good team.

I agree about Wells he is more professional than O'Connor Or McDermott they should have gone with Eddie and Stevo. Tony Rea is a good co presenter, Chris Warren was good as a commentator and presenter. Wilkin is a good assessor of a game and would be a good fit for SKY. Carney, Wells and Wilkin would be a good team.

Watched the games last week, one of the commentators wants to learn how to pronounce the players names. (Its not the first time its happened).
He kept saying "Marmo" and Matangi. There's no "R" in Mamo & no "N" in Matagi.
Also he should get his facts correct. In the Wigan / Wakefield game he kept saying that Wakefield were bottom of the league, but at the time of the game HKR were bottom.

matagi is correct, in polynesian/samoan dialect a G is pronounced as a 'ng' sound.

Cheers for that. You learn something new everyday.

Hence Joe Vagana being pronounced VaNgana

This is quite interesting...

In Samoan, the letter G is pronounced as though there is an N before that G, so Ulugia is pronounced UluNGia, Vagana is pronounced VaNGana.

Tongan pronunciation is easier but many disregard the vowels at the end of names. Therefore, Sekope should sound like Sekop-eh, not Sekop-ee.

In Maori, the most common mistake is the pronunciation of words and names starting with the letters Wh, which sounds like F. Not a problem for rugby commentators, but in the NRL Manly's Dean Whare (Far-ay) has had to make it known.

In the Fijian language things get a bit trickier. What is written as C is pronounced as Th, while Qs should sound like Ng. So Rokocoko is pronounced RokoTHoko, and Tuqiri is pronounced TuNGiri.

well, funnily enough it was INGA the winger that first brought this to my attention since there wasn't an N in his first name Va'aigia