FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Josh back, but with Wire |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9515 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13145_1273270974.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13145.jpg |
|
| Quote: Wigg'n "He'll do well for them, had a great last season with us, never gave less than 100%.
Do they capitalise on the free salary or is that only if they are a new RL from RU and not returning?'"
Yes theres an exemption for former RL players returning from RU.
Good luck to him, daft choice to go to Sale in the first place.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2980 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Wigg'n "He'll do well for them, had a great last season with us, never gave less than 100%.
Do they capitalise on the free salary or is that only if they are a new RL from RU and not returning?'"
He will count fully on the cap, it's 100% discount for a player who has never played RL before and 50% for someone returning but they have to have not played RL for 5 years. So while someone like Eastmond would count for a 50% discount, Charnley doesn't as he hasn't been out of the game for long enough..
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 3742 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
4067_1617434324.jpeg 1998,2010,2013,2016,2018 & 2023.....I was there
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4067.jpeg |
|
| We have four very good wingers already so don’t really need him. He must be one of a select few where a “comeback” clause wasn’t written into his severance deal (thankfully). Good luck to him though I hope he does well there, he was wasted at Sale but his bank account will be a lot healthier for it.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2795 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| We don’t really need him as a winger but I’d like to have seen him as centre cover!
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15259 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| I can't help wondering if he'llend up being another who takes forever to get back up to RL speed - 'forever' being literally true in the case of Karl Pryce, Iestyn Harris, Lee Smith (and seemingly Joel T). I'm also wondering how fit he'll be. Josh always struck me as someone who could get big quickly if he wasn't careful - and what's he been doing for the last year, apart from standing on the sideline?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 443 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2017 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
76097_1531391567.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76097.jpg |
|
| I would take a wager now on JC scoring 20+ tries this season...a great piece of business by Warrington IMO.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1855 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: hatty "We have four very good wingers already so don’t really need him. He must be one of a select few where a “comeback” clause wasn’t written into his severance deal (thankfully). Good luck to him though I hope he does well there, he was wasted at Sale but his bank account will be a lot healthier for it.'"
Depend whether he left mid contract or not. The club tend to put the clause in when they release a player from their contract partly to protect the club from what Joel moon did to Salford. It is only a first option so if we don’t want the player we are not obliged to sign them.
If said player is out of contract no such clause can be enforced as I believe was the case with charnley
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 538 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2019 | Mar 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
71414_1528274576.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_71414.jpg |
|
| Quote: RichieS "I would take a wager now on JC scoring 20+ tries this season...a great piece of business by Warrington IMO.'"
Not if he plays outside Ryan Atkins
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 32357 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
|
| Quote: RichieS "I would take a wager now on JC scoring 20+ tries this season...a great piece of business by Warrington IMO.'"
I'll take that bet now.
£20 to a chosen charity.
If Charnley doesn't score 20 tries this season you give it to Joining Jack, if he does I'll give it to your chosen charity.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 15259 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: RichieS "I would take a wager now on JC scoring 20+ tries this season...a great piece of business by Warrington IMO.'"
But such thinking would be no basis for Wigan re-signing him.
I'm not saying that you're claiming it is, but I've been hearing for a while that Josh has wanted to come home, and that Wigan's response was simply that they no longer needed him.
Also, I can't see that he'd be switching back to League for peanuts. He probably can't command the silly money he no doubt was paid to go to RU, but it wouldn't make sense for him to come back very cheaply. For me, that money would better be spent in our case on players we actually have room for.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4784 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: hatty "We have four very good wingers already so don’t really need him. He must be one of a select few where a “comeback” clause wasn’t written into his severance deal (thankfully). Good luck to him though I hope he does well there, he was wasted at Sale but his bank account will be a lot healthier for it.'"
Four very good wingers? Can't agree with this.
Marshall is poor apart from his speed. Positional play, tackling, defence and under the high ball he's no where near very good.
Manfredi is an unknown quantity. We've no idea how good he is after such bad injuries.
Pleased Burgess is coming back into form, he has the potential to be one of the best wingers in SL.
Davies is getting better all the time.
I currently count 2 at best.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 1619 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
15483.jpg :15483.jpg |
|
| The only way I could see Wigan being interested was of there was major doubt over Manfredi getting back to full fitness, otherwise we would be overloaded on wingers. Although Charnley did play centre a few times he was never a regular there and would be a gamble to sign him for that position.
I do think 20+ tries might be a bit optimistic - if he anything like any returning players it will take a while to get back to full RL fitness and getting back into the swing of RL - never ceases to amaze me how so many returning players struggle after a spell in RU.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 443 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2017 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2020 | Dec 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
76097_1531391567.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76097.jpg |
|
| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I'll take that bet now.
£20 to a chosen charity.
If Charnley doesn't score 20 tries this season you give it to Joining Jack, if he does I'll give it to your chosen charity.'"
Done.
£20 to Joining Jack regardless of outcome
Cruncher, I would agree, I don't think Wigan needed to recruit him and Warrington will suit him perfectly. This will only be a missed opportunity should Joe decide to give the NRL another crack and if he kicks on from the hat-trick against Wakefield it may well be the case.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 359 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2017 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
75764_1493206153.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75764.jpg |
|
| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Four very good wingers? Can't agree with this.
Marshall is poor apart from his speed. Positional play, tackling, defence and under the high ball he's no where near very good.
Manfredi is an unknown quantity. We've no idea how good he is after such bad injuries.
Pleased Burgess is coming back into form, he has the potential to be one of the best wingers in SL.
Davies is getting better all the time.
I currently count 2 at best.'"
Accept Manfredi (who if ever fit again, is probably the best of the lot) is an unknown quantity, but that's very harsh on Marshall imo.
Clearly he needs to work on his defence if he wants a long term career at a club like Wigan, but his all round play is definitely more than just speed. There are plenty of quick players in the league who don't have the knack of getting over the line, something Marshall has in abundance.
I'd still have him third choice after Davies & a fully fit Burgerss, but I've seen a few Shaun Ainscough comparisons here and there, which for me is well wide of the mark.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 32357 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Nov 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
|
| Quote: RichieS "Done.
£20 to Joining Jack regardless of outcome
Good man. Great charity
|
|
|
|
|
|