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| Is he not still involved at Saracens?
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| I wouldn't have him after he was named as part of the operation that lured Sam Burgess.
I don't blame him personally for that. He worked for Union, so it was his job.
But could we really trust him not to look for a way back at the first opportunity, and maybe take someone with him?
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| If he can still run the good Doctor will have him at Salford.
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| No thank you we do not need him leave him down south.
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| No call for a Rugby Union coach here. He may have been a league player but he's not been in this sport for 10 years and times change.
Adding the fact that we probably pay buttons in comparison to what he's been on and it's a non starter.
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| No thanks, let him stay where the grass was greener.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Is he not still involved at Saracens?'"
When he first started coaching with England he was still involved with Saracens, but the Saracens job was soon given up when he went full time with England.
One little twist in the tale though is that Eddie Jones the new England coach has approached Saracens with a view to taking their present defensive coach Paul Gustard to give him a role with England fulltime.
This may give Farrell a way back with Saracens, if they want him.
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| imo he has made his bed and nailed his colours - RL should treat him as a carrier of some highly contagious disease with no cure - same applies to Mike Ford.
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| If there was a vacancy I'd have him, there isn't though.
Can't him being here as he will be used to the Union salary levels
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| Quote: maurice "imo he has made his bed and nailed his colours - RL should treat him as a carrier of some highly contagious disease with no cure - same applies to Mike Ford.'"
It takes some doing but that's one of the stupidest posts I've seen on here in a good long while.
He 'made his bed' carrying Wigan on his back for 10+ years. I can't honestly remember a time during any of his 350+ appearances for Wigan when he didn't give anything short of his full effort. I also can't remember him missing or ducking an international series either which is more than can be said for some 'legends' who he played against.
How easily people forget how much both he and Rads held our club together.
Quite simply a club legend who should always be welcome back.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "It takes some doing but that's one of the stupidest posts I've seen on here in a good long while.
He 'made his bed' carrying Wigan on his back for 10+ years. I can't honestly remember a time during any of his 350+ appearances for Wigan when he didn't give anything short of his full effort. I also can't remember him missing or ducking an international series either which is more than can be said for some 'legends' who he played against.
How easily people forget how much both he and Rads held our club together.
Quite simply a club legend who should always be welcome back.'"
In what capacity?
As a coach? He hasn't even tried his hand at it in League and ultimately he failed in Union. As a mentor? Possibly, but I'm not sure there's room for another one of those when we've already got so many others around the club who weren't involved in luring Sam Burgess away from the England team. As a team manager? Small reward for Kris Radlinksi if that happened.
I don't agree with this OTT 'treat him like a pariah' nonsense, but neither do I agree with the dewy-eyed view that all former great players should be given a job regardless of their CV since they stopped playing. Surely you'd agree that he can only be employed by Wigan if he can contribute?, and I'm struggling to see how he could.
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| Many on here don't want him because of his Union connections but still crave the presence of a certain Mr S Edwards .
Strange .
Regards , EW
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| Quote: Cruncher "In what capacity?
As a coach? He hasn't even tried his hand at it in League and ultimately he failed in Union. As a mentor? Possibly, but I'm not sure there's room for another one of those when we've already got so many others around the club who weren't involved in luring Sam Burgess away from the England team. As a team manager? Small reward for Kris Radlinksi if that happened.
I don't agree with this OTT 'treat him like a pariah' nonsense, but neither do I agree with the dewy-eyed view that all former great players should be given a job regardless of their CV since they stopped playing. Surely you'd agree that he can only be employed by Wigan if he can contribute?, and I'm struggling to see how he could.'"
Of course he'd have to contribute. If guys like Agar and KFC can 'contribute' then I can't see why Faz can't.
Some of thr posts are going too far imo. Out of all the players who moved over to RU -Robinson, Paul, Hape, Ashton, big Les, Burgess etc Faz is the one that earned the right to not have this sort of nonsense thrown at him. He had a long and glittering RL career and moved to RU at the end of his career for a once in a lifetime payout.
I have no issues with that because if anyone in sport deserved one last pay day then it was Faz.
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| Quote: Edinburgh Warrior "Many on here don't want him because of his Union connections but still crave the presence of a certain Mr S Edwards .
Strange .
Regards , EW'"
That one became more unlikely then ever when he signed a 4 year extension to his Wales contract this week.
Nor he or Farrell could walk straight in to the top job here without working as an assistant first IMO. They've both been out of the game too long. The chances of getting them in as an assistant at any point is less then slim.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Of course he'd have to contribute. If guys like Agar and KFC can 'contribute' then I can't see why Faz can't.
Some of thr posts are going too far imo. Out of all the players who moved over to RU -Robinson, Paul, Hape, Ashton, big Les, Burgess etc Faz is the one that earned the right to not have this sort of nonsense thrown at him. He had a long and glittering RL career and moved to RU at the end of his career for a once in a lifetime payout.
I have no issues with that because if anyone in sport deserved one last pay day then it was Faz.'"
Deserving has got nothing to do with it. We are talking about how much a new employee can benefit Wigan RL, and nothing more.
By quoting Agar and KFC you seem to be implying that we should employ Faz as coach, which is at least as big a load of nonsense as the 'we hate him because he was in RU' stuff that you rightly take issue with. Andy Farrell has never coached in RL, and his RU coaching career is chequered - so any possibilty of his walking into a big job at Wigan is a non-starter.
Maybe he'd be prepared to start as an assistant, where he could learn his trade, though I couldn't see he'd want that given the wages and status he's been used to.
Someone else mentioned Shaun Edwards. I think his chance has also now gone, but I feel there are two key differences between him and Farrell: Edwards has been successful in his time as a coach (albeit in a different code, which would still be an issue for me), and Edwards has not been implicated in luring RL players to RU. That latter point is not of overweening importance, except it indicates to me an innate loyalty to RL which would be a reassuring factor if we were to consider hiring him again. As I say, though, I think Shaun's opportunity has also been and gone.
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