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Quote: warrior94 "Even though he cost us abit i think that Gleeson was a good buy for us. Even though he hasn't had the best season at Warrington up to now, he's already getting involved in the game, scoring his first try on monday against Catalans.'"


Roberts is receiving more of the ball now which can only be a good thing. Gleeson set up his own try by freeing Roberts and then supporting him.

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Quote: Ancient & Loyal "Roberts is receiving more of the ball now which can only be a good thing. Gleeson set up his own try by freeing Roberts and then supporting him.'"

Its an improvement

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Quote: warrior94 "Its an improvement'"


It's a step in the correct direction, he's a quality centre, an international, a Wigan lad and if it means Roberts gets more of the ball then that's great as it gives us attacking options down both left and right sides of the field.

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Quote: Ancient & Loyal "It's a step in the correct direction, he's a quality centre, an international, a Wigan lad and if it means Roberts gets more of the ball then that's great as it gives us attacking options down both left and right sides of the field.'"


Exactly, them two have a good partenership between them and lets hope it stays that way.

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All this means nothing if we cant front up in the forwards and defend.

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Quote: Connor The Warrior "All this means nothing if we cant front up in the forwards and defend.'"


Agreed, it counts for little anyway.

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For me, we have a great 1 to 7. The problem lie's after this.

Fielden - Lost his bottle.
Prescott - Not got the strenght, agression.
Feka - Not onlong enough. Teams seem to be getting used to him.
Coley - Not a prop.
Hock - Would walk in any team. Carrying the pack.
Hansen - Great effort, but cant break a tackle.
O'Carroll - One of our better go forward props.
Riddell - Still miles behind with fitness.
Mccolrum - Liability.

Massive clear out in this list Apart from Hock, id get rid of the lot.

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Quote: Connor The Warrior "For me, we have a great 1 to 7. The problem lie's after this.

Fielden - Lost his bottle.
Prescott - Not got the strenght, agression.
Feka - Not onlong enough. Teams seem to be getting used to him.
Coley - Not a prop.
Hock - Would walk in any team. Carrying the pack.
Hansen - Great effort, but cant break a tackle.
O'Carroll - One of our better go forward props.
Riddell - Still miles behind with fitness.
Mccolrum - Liability.

Massive clear out in this list Apart from Hock, id get rid of the lot.'"


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O'Carroll and Prescott are great young prospects.

Hansen does nothing fancy but it is likely that Bailey will leave at the end of the season and you need a workmanlike player in your pack just to work in the muck and nettles department.

Feka is only on for 20 minutes at a time but there are other props in Super League who are interchanged at similar intervals and no-one seems to pick up on that. Feka, although didn't have a fantastic game against Les Cats is our main source of go forward along with Hock. I'd say without Feka we'd possibly be further down the league table than we are now.

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Quote: Ancient & Loyal "

None of our forward hit the tackle and look to off load. As soon as they are touched they are down.

There are other issues in this team besides the props. The main reason is the winning mentalty we dont seem to have. this gets coached into a team.

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[color=#FF0000:1a02isux][b:1a02isux]IN A WARRIORS CODE THERE'S NO SURRENDER....THOUGH HIS BODY SAYS STOP, HIS SPIRIT CRY'S NEVER!!!![/b:1a02isux][/color:1a02isux]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17903.jpg



Quote: Connor The Warrior "None of our forward hit the tackle and look to off load. As soon as they are touched they are down.

There are other issues in this team besides the props. The main reason is the winning mentalty we dont seem to have. this gets coached into a team.'"



So really you want the coach out the door not the players ?

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Quote: Connor The Warrior "None of our forward hit the tackle and look to off load. As soon as they are touched they are down.

There are other issues in this team besides the props. The main reason is the winning mentalty we dont seem to have. this gets coached into a team.'"


I agree, we have the talent but not the mentality or the motivation collectively it would seem sometimes.

Hock hits the tackle and looks to offload, Paleaaesina gets an offload away if he can and keeps the legs pumping as does Prescott and O'Carroll. Fielden probably makes the least metres of all our forwards. I wish he'd come good.

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Quote: wigan_knight "So really you want the coach out the door not the players ?'"


Like i say, there are other issues.

Coach out and bring someone in who's hungry for it.

Quite a few players out who are simply not Wigan class.

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[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r] Ryan Hoffman [quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r] Christopher Irvine - The Times [quote:3htgpm5r] Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters. [/quote:3htgpm5r] Sherbert Dip - Leeds Fan [quote:3htgpm5r]I will never forget that atmosphere at Knowsley Road on Good Friday when the final hooter sounded. On behalf of all the fellas thank you so much for being the greatest fans in the world.[/quote:3htgpm5r] Phil Bailey[/color:3htgpm5r]:



Quote: Ancient & Loyal "It's a step in the correct direction, he's a quality centre, an international, a Wigan lad and if it means Roberts gets more of the ball then that's great as it gives us attacking options down both left and right sides of the field.'"


Spot on A&L, that try was created (if i rememberly correctly) by attacking down the left, then switching to ball to the other side of the pitch and finding space on the outside icon_smile.gif

and btw, OP, your right, Gleeson is a good buy

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Quote: Ancient & Loyal "I agree, we have the talent but not the mentality or the motivation collectively it would seem sometimes.

Hock hits the tackle and looks to offload, Paleaaesina gets an offload away if he can and keeps the legs pumping as does Prescott and O'Carroll. Fielden probably makes the least metres of all our forwards. I wish he'd come good.'"


Its pains me watching Fielden. The guys a legend still in my eyes, but he's had his day.

Id give my right arm for the past Fielden.

Graham would live with him.

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[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r] Ryan Hoffman [quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r] Christopher Irvine - The Times [quote:3htgpm5r] Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters. [/quote:3htgpm5r] Sherbert Dip - Leeds Fan [quote:3htgpm5r]I will never forget that atmosphere at Knowsley Road on Good Friday when the final hooter sounded. On behalf of all the fellas thank you so much for being the greatest fans in the world.[/quote:3htgpm5r] Phil Bailey[/color:3htgpm5r]:



Quote: Connor The Warrior "For me, we have a great 1 to 7. The problem lie's after this.

Fielden - Lost his bottle.
Prescott - Not got the strenght, agression.
Feka - Not onlong enough. Teams seem to be getting used to him.
Coley - Not a prop.
Hock - Would walk in any team. Carrying the pack.
Hansen - Great effort, but cant break a tackle.
O'Carroll - One of our better go forward props.
Riddell - Still miles behind with fitness.
Mccolrum - Liability.

Massive clear out in this list Apart from Hock, id get rid of the lot.'"


I laughed at this, thought it was a cracking little joke...then I realised you where serious!!!!

Whether you can appreciate it, Hansen runs cracking attacking lines. Players tend to drift laterally when they are about to pass with ball in hand. Nothing wrong with it, unless the reciever is drifting on the same angle.

Hansen hits a ball straight, and hard. If your running away from the guy who is trying to tackle you, then that side of your body is exposed completly, your centre of gravity is high, and if you get hit then you WILL lose metres.

By running straight at a defense, or angles back into them, then he is much harder to tackle, and much less likely to get smashed... I'd draw you a picture, but I can't find my crayons icon_wink.gif

As pointed out, Prescott and O'carroll are cracking players, and are the future of our pack.

Feka was criticised for being to fat, worked hard on his fitness, now he plays for the same amount of time and gets critisised can't make the same impact.

Riddell doesn't look fit, but in all honesty does KC?

Mccilorum...Liability? where did you get this from?! He has cut out his penaltys and works over time in defense...

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