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| agreed.
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| Wire impressed me whilst their fans yet again lived upto their reputation!!
Further to the trouble inside the ground myself and a mate wearing Wigan shirts were set upon by wire fans wanting to fight Wigan!!
Shame really that they cant make do with watching such an outstanding dominant performance!
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| Quote: Ian Roberts Closet "Wire impressed me whilst their fans yet again lived upto their reputation!!
Further to the trouble inside the ground myself and a mate wearing Wigan shirts were set upon by wire fans wanting to fight Wigan!!
Shame really that they cant make do with watching such an outstanding dominant performance!'"
Please dont tar us all with the same brush. My pregnant wife went to saints away earlier this year and was told by a saints fan with two kids in tow to "F**K off and park somewhere else cause this is a saints only road."
So please dont tar all wire fan's cause every club (even yours ) has there fair share of d**kheads.
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| Quote: matty wire 75 "So please dont tar all wire fan's cause every club (even yours ) has there fair share of d**kheads.'"
Agreed.
We have had an increasing number of scroats following Wigan on away days this season. One set smashed a window at the Black Bull Pub on Good Friday.
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| Think that RFL need to look at the trouble inside wembley and ban anybody identified as being involved.
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| Quote: InSmithWeTrust "Quote: InSmithWeTrust "What I find strange about this alleged " F*** off" comment is that Smith praised Myler when interviewed on TV on Saturday, saying Myler had shown great maturity when he was told he would not be in the Wembley team.
A few weeks after the alleged comment/incident, so presumably he showed great maturity because he didn't tell him to *F*** off" this time!!'"
Myler was celebrating on the town hall steps yesterday like he'd won the Lance Todd trophy.
Hell of a show for someone who opposition fans claim will be handing in a transfer request this week.'"
I didn't say he'd be handing in a transfer request - just expressing my surprise at Smith's comments about Myler's alleged reaction - after his alleged comment to Smith 3 weeks previously!
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| Quote: Father Ted "Myler will stay at Wire, he better had!
Next year 11 of Wire's first team are 30 years old or more.
They will need to keep all their younger first teamers they can.
Those 11 will need replacing in the next 2-3 years, some task that will be.
The phrase "splash the cash" will take on a whole new meaning when quality players like Morley, Monaghan, Wood, Carvell, King etc depart.
Myler won't have to wait too long!'"
We will also have a massive amount of Cap to play with along with Moran backing the coach with fees, and also this seasons table topping U20s will be getting ready for first team.
I also reckon we have a big-ish signing lined up for next season with Mathers, Vinnie and Penny leaving only Hodgson signed should be room for another big name and a big fee wont be a problem as Hodgson is off contract an Moran dips into his pockets anyway but this years successful defence of the Challenge Cup will give us some more pennys.
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| Quote: Wire_85 "We will also have a massive amount of Cap to play with along with Moran backing the coach with fees, and also this seasons table topping U20s will be getting ready for first team.
I also reckon we have a big-ish signing lined up for next season with Mathers, Vinnie and Penny leaving only Hodgson signed should be room for another big name and a big fee wont be a problem as Hodgson is off contract an Moran dips into his pockets anyway but this years successful defence of the Challenge Cup will give us some more pennys.'"
Aren't you full quota already though?
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| Doesn't have to be an Aussie we didn't buy any last year not sure on the rules for overseas trained as Vinnie would be on that list but am sure if Smith wants someone that we can fit in, Moran and the board we do there best to get them.
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| It's a fair point about us having to bring in changes, if we are having to sign English players then where are the talented English players? Most of them are at clubs which are our rivals, eg Wigan and Saints. No matter what money we offer, they aren't going to sell us their prize assets.
Warrington have got some decent younger players, and there are one or two names in the current academy for whom there are high hopes, so our future looks better than most in SL, but we have to be realistic, it is going to be a tough competitive environment. I personally think Wigan are going to be the strongest side in a couple of years time, even if this year comes too soon for them to actually win the GF (although they may well do). Wigan in 2010 are a bit like Lewis Hamilton in his first year in F1, you knew that even if the title didn't come in that season, that he would be a front runner for the next few years.
What Warrington are doing with these two Challenge Cups is cashing in now, because we have got a few good young players around, but we have got a very good bunch of senior players and leaders, Briers, Morley, Carvell, Hicks, Monaghan and King and so on. They will still be around next season and most of them in 2012 as well but the Warrington side will look significantly different in 2013. So for us this is our moment and it's good that we are cashing in. I'm not saying we will go backwards, because the infrastructure off the field at Warrington is very good, so we have assured that over the coming decade we will be one of the stronger clubs, but right now I see the sun rising on Wigan.
If Wire hadn't won any trophies in this period then there would be a danger we would have missed the boat, but we have taken our moment and delivered trophies, our fans can relax a bit because we know we are going to be a strong SL club for many years ahead now and if it means were are having 3rd placed finishes and getting to semi finals or losing finals, while Wigan/Saints whoever are winning them, well at least with these cups we have had some success for this generation of fans to have good memories. A few years ago there was a shift in the balance of power away from Bradford towards a young emerging Leeds side and now you can see a shift in the balance of power away from Leeds towards a young emerging Wigan, Wigan should win a few trophies over the next 5-10 years even if they don't monopolise everything like they did before.
The cautionary tale for Wigan to beware of is Parramatta in the NRL, this time ten years ago everybody was forecasting that Parra would go on to dominate the next decade, they had a crop of teenagers who had just broken into the first team that people were saying was the best set of young players ever seen in Australia...Jamie Lyon, Pat Richards, Nathan Hindmarsh, David Vaealiki, Jason Cayless, Brett Hodgson, Andrew Ryan, PJ Marsh, were all in the first team aged 18-21. The next season, they smashed everybody out of sight and won the minor premiership by a landslide and broke all the records in the process...then they lost the Grand Final, and that team never won anything, it went onto be the Bulldogs and Roosters who were the dominant teams, and then Brisbane and Melbourne and Manly. When you look back now it seems incredible that Parra never won anything with the players who they had brought through at that time, but it happened. So nothing is guaranteed, even if it is fair to say the future looks bright in Wigan.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "It's a fair point about us having to bring in changes, if we are having to sign English players then where are the talented English players? Most of them are at clubs which are our rivals, eg Wigan and Saints. No matter what money we offer, they aren't going to sell us their prize assets.
Warrington have got some decent younger players, and there are one or two names in the current academy for whom there are high hopes, so our future looks better than most in SL, but we have to be realistic, it is going to be a tough competitive environment. I personally think Wigan are going to be the strongest side in a couple of years time, even if this year comes too soon for them to actually win the GF (although they may well do). Wigan in 2010 are a bit like Lewis Hamilton in his first year in F1, you knew that even if the title didn't come in that season, that he would be a front runner for the next few years.
What Warrington are doing with these two Challenge Cups is cashing in now, because we have got a few good young players around, but we have got a very good bunch of senior players and leaders, Briers, Morley, Carvell, Hicks, Monaghan and King and so on. They will still be around next season and most of them in 2012 as well but the Warrington side will look significantly different in 2013. So for us this is our moment and it's good that we are cashing in. I'm not saying we will go backwards, because the infrastructure off the field at Warrington is very good, so we have assured that over the coming decade we will be one of the stronger clubs, but right now I see the sun rising on Wigan.
If Wire hadn't won any trophies in this period then there would be a danger we would have missed the boat, but we have taken our moment and delivered trophies, our fans can relax a bit because we know we are going to be a strong SL club for many years ahead now and if it means were are having 3rd placed finishes and getting to semi finals or losing finals, while Wigan/Saints whoever are winning them, well at least with these cups we have had some success for this generation of fans to have good memories. A few years ago there was a shift in the balance of power away from Bradford towards a young emerging Leeds side and now you can see a shift in the balance of power away from Leeds towards a young emerging Wigan, Wigan should win a few trophies over the next 5-10 years even if they don't monopolise everything like they did before.
The cautionary tale for Wigan to beware of is Parramatta in the NRL, this time ten years ago everybody was forecasting that Parra would go on to dominate the next decade, they had a crop of teenagers who had just broken into the first team that people were saying was the best set of young players ever seen in Australia...Jamie Lyon, Pat Richards, Nathan Hindmarsh, David Vaealiki, Jason Cayless, Brett Hodgson, Andrew Ryan, PJ Marsh, were all in the first team aged 18-21. The next season, they smashed everybody out of sight and won the minor premiership by a landslide and broke all the records in the process...then they lost the Grand Final, and that team never won anything, it went onto be the Bulldogs and Roosters who were the dominant teams, and then Brisbane and Melbourne and Manly. When you look back now it seems incredible that Parra never won anything with the players who they had brought through at that time, but it happened. So nothing is guaranteed, even if it is fair to say the future looks bright in Wigan.'"
Great post and assessment.
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| I only heard about all the trouble in the ground yesterday when I picked my brother up after he'd been for the weekend. He was sat amongst the Wire fans with his Wigan shirt on, he said the majority around him were fine, but there was some not far behind him who were fighting. He told me that there was quite a few big fights around the ground involving both Leeds and Warrington fans.
I'm not saying it's just those two sets of fans that cause trouble, but I can't say I'm surprised as both sets seem to have quite a high element of it, as do quite a few clubs these days. I think the football element is entering Rugby League at quite an alarming rate. We're supposed to be considered a family game, but we keep getting these idiots spoiling it for everybody else. How long will it be before we have to bring in segregation?
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| Quote: Fames "I didn't say he'd be handing in a transfer request - just expressing my surprise at Smith's comments about Myler's alleged reaction - after his alleged comment to Smith 3 weeks previously!'"
You misunderstand, I was simply adding to your comment with something that makes the "inside info" crews' claims that he's wanting out even more nonsensical.
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| Quote: Wire_85 "Doesn't have to be an Aussie we didn't buy any last year not sure on the rules for overseas trained as Vinnie would be on that list but am sure if Smith wants someone that we can fit in, Moran and the board we do there best to get them.'"
It's 5 quota and 5 overseas including said 5 quota.
Solomona doesn't count on the quota, neither does Vanderson but with Hodgson, King, Monaghan, Hicks and Landerson we're at full quota. But as you say,"big signing" doesn't mean it'd be an overseas signing.
For me, I'd rather be looking at Williams and the Evans brothers being brought through, maybe even Jordan Burke.
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